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Audi R4 Rumours Resurface Once Again Hey Xenomorph, just to reply to your question. I know Freude120, we study together, although he does part time. You are really so madly in defence of Audi and 120 is right. You're NUTS!!! You will not accept defeat although you know deep down you are supporting an inferior, yes inferior, product. By the way, I would like you to also comment on the fact that Audi has never won any International Engine of the year awards, when BMW wins every single one year after year. Not even Porsche, nor Ferrari can beat BMW. Also I would like you to comment on the 135i, CS concept, coming Z4, M6. You know, all journalists have commented favourably on all those models and I would like to see you bash it down. Although you constantly attack what we love with all our hearts. we'd love to meet you one day and show you what it is that makes us love BMWs and why we find Audi's disguisting.

Audi A5 2.0 TDI Announced for UK I have driven the R8, that's why I believe that I am qualified to speak about the poor handling, even if thier so famous 4x4 system, well not that appropriate is it? Of course BMW doesn't have anything in this class now, their time of this class was 30 years ago with the M1, which Audi very clearly took 30 years to copy. As already mentioned in previous comments, BMW does not have to fill every single gap of thecar segement to be the best because by being the best in every segment that it participates in, BMw has made itself the most popular, no.1, largest and only independent premium car company in the world. As for Audi, yes they try to fill more segments, try to copy BMW so hard, but they are still this understated thing that's going no-where.

Audi A5 2.0 TDI Announced for UK You see, not even the traditional big mouths from the audi fan gallery is defending this car, because they know that this is utter broing rubbish. or else the smll crowd of Audinator and xenomorph would have started their stories here. Shame, but this A5 is a really dead product.

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! You see,you are exactly the type of person that I am talking about. IGNORANT. But at least I talk the truth and if you cannot bear it, maybe Audi is not for you.

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! At least it's not cut and pasted designs from all other cars such as Audi copying BMW's footsteps in the X3 market, copying BMW designs, copying BMW tech, copying Mazda's LED lights and using VW stuff

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! Clearly not enough to cover costs when it is a BMW. If it was an Audi, well, maybe because they'd just get the parts from a Polo or Golf and charge you a fortune. BMW is decent andwill not do that. What you get in a BMW is genuine BMW and that's that. True and honest.

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! I like your comment. Beautifully put together. Yes, a business must make money. But it must also make dreams come true. Peopl who are young now must look up to a car and say I want to drive that brand's car. And in order to do that, they need to bring out more concepts, more amazing vehicles, put more of their vehicles in movies. Audi has been doin that all along, leading to most graduates in Germany wanting to work for Audi and not BMW (previously) - this is a huge blow for BMW and I hope Management will realise that. BMw must make more cars (even if it's just concepts) that will blow people's minds away, cars that kids will put a poster of on their walls and create dreams of ownership in future. That's how a loyal customer base is first created. I think BMW is lacking in that department and maybe it is to do with their strategy of cutting costs

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! Compete with what. R8's objective was to up the Audi image and not to make money. They achieved that. BMW's objective is now to boost profitability, not to up its image as it is already the highest. So it makes no sense to build a car to compete against the likes of CLS just for competition sake.

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! Most of them change because they are so used to BMW and wanted a change. But as soon as they drive another car, they jump immediately back to BMW becasue they know it's the best. Exceot for those who have driven other premium cars that's not BMW but is too scared to experience a BMW, hence ignornace as they are scared they will have a change of heart and cannot live with the guilt of being disloyal. Understandable human nature

BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!! xenomorph, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE AGAINST ME? I WOULD APPRECIATE MORE IF YOU COULD JUST WAKE UP AND REALISE THAT BMW IS THE BEST, IT IS NO.1 AND NOT VW'S AUDI'S IMAGINARY POSITION IN THE PREMIUM MARKET. I don't think that the 7 Series is the best looking car. However it is much better looking than the S and A8 i.e. best looking in its class. The R8 looks like a rat when compared to Aston and the M1 30 years ago (by the way, just in case other Audi drivers think rats are good looking just because it is associated with Audi, most people on earth do not). If you call the CLS beautiful, then you're not looking at it properly or blind. It is huge, yes, but by no means is it attractive! It is ugly as hell. Look at the front and look at the back. (VOMIT!) To your R8 story: Do you really think that they cannot produce more than demand? Wake up, I have friends in the Audi Group and is extremely close to the Board of Management (by the way, they like BMWs more but it is just that Audi pays them much better AND BMW is cutting jobs - only bad thing), the reason why thy limit production is not because they cannot produce more, they have huge spare capacity. But if they produce more, they won;t be able to charge such a high price on the car! By the way, do you know what their margin on one unit is? Well last year the contribution margin per unit sold was about 68%. These are margins that you'd expect from Porsche and Lambo. But how did Audi manage to achieve that? Well, the supply less and raise artificial excess demand. Also, where do you come up with the figures of 2 years waiting list? It is a completely made up number. Waiting time depends on the number of units allocated for the specific country and at the moment, Audi is able to produce what is demanded. And just for the record, it doesn't take 2 years to build an R8. Maybe your dealership that you enquired at couldn't sell you an R8 and they were not allocated 1 or not compliant to sell that's why they made up the story of 2 years. It takes max a few months built to order. Another interesting factor about the 2 years story is that they make the product seem as rare as possible to milk most cash out of the customer. Most customers who say they ordered will get their R8 within a few months, but guess what, the dealers will just say that here's one that someone didn;t wan and this is the chance in your life to buy it now (i.e. you won't get it at the best price) - VW is a cash cow, milking customers that are not aware of their marketing tricks. I came acorss some terms that sum up the drivers and owners of the different brands: just wanted to share with you: As for Audi: "All of Us Desire Idiots" - shown by their idiotic behavior of chosing a VW standard car (AUDI) but paying full premium prices - "stupid idiots" Merc: "My Era Remains Continuous" - signally people who are a the end of their roads, holding onto thier desire for their legacy and times to continue into their future.