VW Golf VI GTI Gets 11hp More & GTI-R to Replace R32
Within days of the new VW Golf VI media release, talk about the sporty GTI version is already emanating. According to VW insiders who spoke with Autocar, the Golf GTI will get 11hp more for a total of 211hp. Increase in power is a result of VW's new global 2.0-liter turbo EA888 engine, which is equipped with Audi's new variable valve-lift system. VW also made access to the turbo and oil cooler easier, therefore, keeping service times/costs down.
The GTI will also look the part with more distinctive body kit, taillights, 18 and 19-inch wheels and headlights with Audi-style LED daytime driving lights.
Unfortunately, the R32 and its sonic V6 engine are being dropped due to EU emissions legislation. However, VW will, in spirit, bring it back via an all-wheel-drive R variant called GTI-R. It will be powered by the 265hp 2.0 TFSI found in the Audi S3.
The new GTI is expected to tease enthusiasts in concept form this October in Paris. Market launch will be spring 2009.
[Note: GTI illustration above is an artist interpretation and not the actual vehicle]
Rather to wait and see the real version instead an illustration this October in Paris... the V6 was heavier than the 2.0 TFSI, maybe will have better perfomance with this one...
Hope the new GTI, does look the part as I think I prefer the current GTi! Shame VW for has adopted the “Toyota school of new car design”! …zzzz ….zzzz!
Dude, VW invented the "toyota school of design" :P Power to the bored people!
I've read dozens of golf reviews and nobody has ever recommended or justified the extra expense of the r32. Most said the extra weight altered the handling and it wasn't as fun to drive recommending the GTI instead.
Lighter is better but the haldex unit, (AWD System) of the R32 made it more fun to drive, having the ability to put the power down during and exiting a corner. But now with the the 2.0T joined with AWD it will defintely be an improvement in the handling department, although the tone and power delivery of the Narrow angle V6 (VR6) will be dearly missed.
This is great and all, but what about the Jetta MK6 GLI or even the regular one? Anyone know if that car is receiving a face lift as well?
I think this car is going to be wicked nice!
Hope the Jetta will receive another different look vs Golf, with an unique personality... today it looks only like a Golf with a trunk
Hasnt Jetta always been as such? a golf turned into a sedan for the american market primarily??
The jetta has its own looks, making it look very different from a golf is a waste of money considering its limited to few markets. It makes more sense to just give the jetta a few tweaks here and there
Because that's what it was orginaly intended for, since the early days of the mk1 Paulds. They wanted something for the American market.
Anyways, so the R32 is trading in it's current acronyms for GTI-R? If you ask me I think "GTI-R" is quite a mouthfull. R32 sounds so much better. And about this 265 hp thing.... Ok, so we have a claimed 265 hp, but what the torque number? What is that like? It should peform better without the weight of a VR6 powerplant fasten to the engine bay, but there is the 4Motion system in place. It may give it the extra scoot-to-60 power it needs, but the last time I checked, an AWD system straped to a European compact was sort of strenuous to that given vechicle. It will need a generous amout of torque to set a decent 0 to 60 time. I think VW should take a few ideas from their cusins to the south at Stuttgart and just take what they have and run with it. And by that; I meant take 2.0L and turn it into 2.5, use lighter materials when fabricating the moving innards of the powerplant. And for every good power train, there should be an exceptional suspension system to complement it. Feel free to borrow Audi's Magnetic Ride if need be the case (after all, you guys are family). All in all, they should really put thought and passion into it all (not like they've never done so before), when constructing the thing.
I agree...I like the RXX style name than the GTI-R nomenclature. The GTI-R...please excuse my moronic comment that I am about to make...sounds so Japanese...
Call it the Golf R20 or something!
i don't think that it's a coincidence the 2.0TFSI engine in the 8P A3 produces around 265bhp... if you want a torque figure, just look at that one ;). i think as far as using Magnetic Ride tho, i can't see themn using it in VWs partly because of expense and partly because it differentiates Audi and VW which is something they've been trying to do lately. I suspect however, that if you miss the R32 then the 3.6 V6 from the Passat is likely to find a home in the Golf as an R36 version...
The Jettas are my next favorite VW and I am curious to see what facelift that car is going to receive. That was why I mentioned it. So far the hype is that VW has really made one hell of a facelift on the car and it looks damn promising. But I have not seen any pictures yet, nor any articles.
Back on topic: In all honesty, I have to agree with tootall here. With an AWD system, that car better be much lighter than its predecessor now, or have a tremendous amount of torque to produce good enough power to all four wheels, to have a decent naught-to-60 time. However, I will have to add ontop of tootall's post and say VW better improve their quality in their cars. Because an AWD system to fail or go bad can be quite expensive.
Cheers!
That rendering looks ugly..like a blow fish
Maybe it was hot but I really remember seeing a Golf V GTi-R...
Anyway having driven the 2.0T, in an Audi though, I reckon it's a good thing that that VR6 engine is being laid to rest. It's a great engine and I reckon it will do the Golf GTi-R (or R20, whateva you wanna call it) better justice than the 3.2 V6.
Plus at high altitudes, my cousin burnt an R32 in his (almost) standard 2.0T Sportback.
personally i think that the current GTI looks alot better than this rendering...
yeah i agree, this looks boring, and vw say the mk VI was designed to be sportier??? ummm i disagree
This is an old render.. even the headlights are different. I do like the name GTI-R though. =)
Hopefully the new model should be sportier...
The Jetta is much more than just a Golf sedan,it is the third highest seller in the entire VW empire,and last year sold 630000 units world wide. In adition over 8 million have been sold since its launch. This model is now made in Mexico,China,and South Africa,as well as in the huge developing markets of India and Russia,so the new Jetta will be crucial to VW s future success.
The horsepower is great but what would be even better is if VW builds a car thats more reliable than a british car with lucas electrics.
Lads, this is an old render. Big way you can tell is staring right out in your face with the front of the car. I do not think the new pictures of the GTI-R or the Jetta (and GLI) are out yet. I hope WCF can get them soon, especially the Jetta.
Cheers!
i have a 2007 jetta 2.5 and its so much more then a golf with a trunk as allot of u say,, its faster then ur standard 2.0 golf allot more sportier and sounds insane with that inline 5,, god i love my car and i hope the new one inst that much better cuz i don't wanna change it this soon
well Sammy, get ready for it. If the pictures are true to the hype, get ready for that trade in! Or you could just wait a couple years, let it hit the used car lot, then pick one up for really cheap!
Your choice mate.
Cheers!
Does anybody miss the all black grill/front section ? I sure as hell do...it was very nice on GTIs and GLIs.
finally... i was getting sick of the R32, i mean the engine. i wonder, why they put it inside the car, in the first place. 3.2L and 250 bhp, pathetic. it was the lamest in it's class. im sure that with the 2.0L turbo the GTI-R will perform much better, and i hope much cheaper. anyhow...
this 11 hp power increase, is kinda weird. i remember audi and vw, both had the 2.0L turbo in 2 powers: 200 bhp and 220 bhp. so they say that the new golf VI has a power increase, cause the droped the 220 engine, and incresed the power in the 200 engine? ..or what? cause to me, thsi sounds stupid. they might as well droped the 200 engine, keep the 220 engine, give it 11+ bhp..and the resutl is 231 bhp. now that's power increase, not what....they assume they achieved. besides, how much did it cost them to make this "enourmouuuss" power increase, 20$?..changing the air filter, or the muffler. wow...
does any know any news about the rumored R36? are they pushing through with it or what? i like the idea of a 265hp GTI-R but i've always like the NA R32. hope they make it
VWs are excellent for city shuttling, nothing more.
Pocket rockets are for those whose pockets aren't deep enough.
Yea and whats your point ? My pockets aren't deep enough, so i buy what i can afford and i have no problem with that. I cant afford a Supercar but im not losing any sleep over it.
Ugh, the new beetle:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/future_vehicles/112_0707_2010_volkswagen_new_beetle/index.html
I hope this is not true.
Theres wayy too much Elitism on this site. Not everyone is rich and not everyone will be ABLE to be rich somebody. As such many different manufacturers cater to different kinds of buyers. Theres nothing wrong with buying a car that suits your budget especially a nice performance hatchback like this.
THIS IS A COPY... NISSAN HAS A CAR CALLED THE PULSAR GTI-R, FIRST PRODUCED IN 1990, 2L TURBOCHARGED ALL WHEEL DRIVE. VW IS A COPY, LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELVES IF YOU DONT ALREADY KNOW!!!!
Lol, if this car turns out wrong, your name is gonna be known for the wrong reason....
it's more efficient to use a potent 4-cylindre-turbo for the topmodel. the Audi S3 shows, that a V6 will be useless for such a car. @maestro_gtir I know what you mean, but wtf is the reason for your anger? A copy? No! Do you know, how often same names or shortnames used by brands to define their variations? GT, GTI, GTR... for example. That's ok, but it has nothing to do with copiing.
The render of the golf is bad. The basic is released, why it looks so unproportional then?!
Agreed, i love the Pulsar GTI-R but while both cars share the name...they're far different cars despite being hatchbacks. I don't think they copied the name, they just didnt notice or think it enough of a problem.
Horrid illustration - 10 steps backwards. 19" poor choice as an option as handling is most likely decreased. Like the variable valve-lift / LED's / better fuel consumption with more power. But based on the looks, I'll go the S3 route thanks for my next after selling my MK5 GTI.
Even lower 18" touted as an option or whatever on the GTI aren't too smart. 18" tires are costly, and may be something buyers in this segment may not want to pay.
"I don't think they copied the name, they just didnt notice or think it enough of a problem."
Your got to be on crack cocaine mate! Its been a ploy from VW and the evidence is fact!
R32 Nissan Skyline 6cyl 89-94 ----- Golf R32 6cyl
GTi-R AWD 2lt turbo Nissan Pulsar 90-94 - ----- Golf AWD 2lt turbo Gti-R
GTR Nissan Skyline 89-2009 ------- WTF's next VW Golf GTR?
Wankers, trying to take Nissan's glory. Be original VW, it aint that hard nissan did it 10+ years ago!
Hahaha, nahh, i only smoke Marijuana my good man. I know it seems bad, im a big Nissan fan, ive always noticed these differences. But even if they copy, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" ;)
Don´t get me wrong... I like Jetta, only I hope it´ll look a little more agressive, a litte more different than Golf
265 with AWD.nice. hope it comes to the states