Official, Nissan Announced GT-R Laps Nurburgring in 7m 29s
The Nissan GT-R can now lay claim to being one of the fastest production cars in the world after GT-R chief test driver Tochio Suzuki completed the famous Nurburgring circuit in Germany in just 7 minutes 29 seconds. According to our records, this puts the GT-R in second place for fastest laps by unmodified production cars just behind the Pagani Zonda F which posted a time of 7 minutes and 27 seconds last November. The time completely destroys the GT-R's previous best lap of 7 minutes 38 seconds achieved last year in slightly damp conditions.
Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer for GT-R said “At last year’s testing, we were frustrated by the conditions at the Nürburgring, always believing that the GT-R could go under seven minutes 30 seconds, the GT-R proves it is among the fastest mass-production cars in the world. We set out to build a multi-performance supercar accessible to anyone, anytime and anywhere – I believe the GT-R has delivered that promise.”
The world can now look forward to a response from the GT-R's main competitor, the Porsche 911 Turbo whose best time stands at a lowly 7 minutes and 40 seconds.
Now let the ZR-1 get "close" to this number before criticizing.. This is not even the V-Spec!!!! The second fastest car on the planet.. How proud can the Japanese be more than that!!.. Announcement: Please stop threatening us with your silly ZR-1 or GT2 from now on.. and if you're not satisfied yet, the V-spec will set the rules.. (((GT-R RULES!!))) :)
Can't wait to see what the V-Spec can do! 7 minutes 20 anyone? :D
The car in question is a "press" car, car companies are known to use boosted cars for runs like this. This GT-R is not stock i assure you, a customer bought GT-R will NOT run 7:29...physics are physics. I love the GT-R but the production version will not be this fast, guaranteed.
how can u be so certain? im pretty sure its illegal to fake numbers in the manner u just explained. im sure the production vehicle will be able to set that time, the question remains... can you?
Xanavi23, what do you base your claims on. Edmunds has tested a customer car and achieved 0-60mph in 3.3 and 1/4 mile in 11.6, both times faster than the manufacturer claim and that was on a crap surface. Autocar UK tested a customer GT-R(grey import) against the GT3 and the GT-R won. Same with CAR magazine. GM claimed that the C6 z06 can run the nurb in 7:42.9 for a standing start full 20.8k lap and yet when Sportauto magazine ran their Supertest for the c6 Z06 the best they could achieve was 7:49 for a FLYING START 20.6k lap(It's on youtube). Physics are physics! So what happened to the 505hp 1450kg z06. Wait for the Sportauto Supertest lap in the GT-R, early 2009, (when the GT-R goes on sale in Germany). It will blow your mind.
I want to see a race round Nurbugring with the best of each sportscar nation- GT-R, GT2, Zonda, DBS, Corvette
i guess..
GT-2... GT-R... DBS... Zonda... Corvette.. n if Ferrari F-430 Scuderia n Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 r added, they'll slot between the GT-R n DBS respectively.. or the Ferrari might just pip them all!! ;)
right, so Nissan is now telling lies is it? give me a break! when will people admit that the Japanese have gone one better over the world this time. talk about being bitter.
Completely agree with you asif.. Japanese are liers!!! They just want to sell more.. PEOPLE!, the GT-R has beaten the 911 turbo in a 2 minutes curcuit with more than 5 seconds.. Do you really not believe this time when putting in mind this is a 7:xx cercuit?? Comon!! Moreover, Manufacturers are not liers.. Try to be logical.. at least a very little bit!!
HAHAHAHA TRY TO BE LOGICAL !?!! how the hell is a car that weighs 3800lbs and has ONLY 473hp gonna beat all the supercars it beat ? Nitrous theres a thing in life called physics and no amount of computers in the world can defy PHYSICS. i love the GT-R but this one is not stock. They lie about power a bit and will never admit so that it gives them better publicity, makes more people wanna buy the car. Its like when Ferrari first released the 599Firoano and it was faster than an Enzo...it was faster because the engine wasnt stock.
I dont blame them, how can a "new" Japanese performance car get the job while all the American tries tend to failure!! They have been existing in this business before any other in the world, and they are struggling since then..
this is crazy (in an good way). the v-spec is going to be even more incredible. but, i thot that the porsche gt2 had clokced a time of either 7.25 or 7.28, no?
NICE!!!
but, this is going to get Porsche on their feet soon, they'll go out there, beat this things time.. then the V-spec comes out n beats that.. n then Porsche will go back again, boosting power, they actually wouldn't give up, coz its their playground.. but neither will the Japs.. am i seeing a Cold War starting?? as i said, NICE!! :D
Incredible. I had looked at the telemetry released from the first run (it was posted on nagtroc), and it was clear the car was capable of a better time due to the few damp corners and a couple run ins with slower cars on the track, but I never would have guessed it was this much faster. Great job Nissan.
Yes... Great job indeed Nissan, just great. However; Do you think that the people that brought you the machine that was the benchmark, which aided you in spawning the greatest achievement in Nissan's (to date that is)would actually let this one down that simple? Not a chance. Again, good job, no, great job, but As Wolff put had put it, it's just going to be an ongoing slug fest. I say, just enjoy the lime-light while you can.
and still, has nothing that makes me want this.....
Oh, that's awesome!!! I remember when the V-Spec post went up, and all the know it alls came out of the wood work..."oh thats impossible for its size, hp, and weight, it just can't be done" "10 seconds is an eternity to make up on the nurburgring" blah blah blah and here the non V-Spec GTR is right about there!!!
actually i dont think 10 seconds is that hard to make up on the ring, specially if the car was running on less than perfect conditions. the avg race track is about what 2 miles long? this is almost 4 times that length. granted u are going 2 seconds a lap faster than ur previous time, but its completely possible.
Does anyone have pictures or a video of the car accually being on the ring. If it is as good as they say it is would't they have something on the news?
Nissan did release a video of the 7:38 run, along with telemetry. I'm sure they'll give us this vid after a while.
Previous generations were cult cars in Japan, now it's worldwide!
The test was run in a standard production gtr as it explains the track was dry so they got a better result resulting in the godzilla being right up there with the big boys if not one of the greatest and when the v-spec hits the track watch out
Look up the nurburgring track records and its their as an official lap record, i don't think nissan have to lie about lap times when they've got the v-spec to come, they stated they could do the ring at a better time when it wasn't damp and that's what they have done but in the production car, go to topgear web page for another review
Who was driving the car, Takuma Sato? The timer must have stopped.
470 hp at weels, 1500kg, AWD and whit that gerabox...avery one its talking about this car ´cause it shows everyone that you DONT have to pay too mush money to have a good car, japan cars have been always like this, just think a litle...at 95` BMW got 680hp engine...Why ferrari as super car cant do this yet...its just busines....if you remember you can have 1000hp from the old skyline....think a little before talk
Tochio Suzuki was the driver the same guy that did the 7.38
I think DODGE Viper Coupe the only car can win over this Nissan guys.Think again guys you'll have the clear answer.
Dodge viper? Same viper that is slower than Z06? I highly doubt it. I don't think there is any company out there right now with something in the works that can beat the V-Spec other than Pagani which will eat it alive with the Zonda R.
It's sad reading all these comments, so many of your are sorely misinformed.
1. the car does NOT weight 3800kg?!?! maybe 3800lbs...We use the metric system in Australia so I wouldn't be sure, but it's more like 1800kg. Granted, this is still a heavy car.
2. We can import the R34 GT-R in Australia from Japan, so there are a few of them in the country, and yes they are already amazing machines, I've driven a slightly modified one and that 4wd system is amazing coming out of corners, you have no loss of traction and you can get on the gas a lot sooner than in a RWD car.
Drive a R34 GT-R, you will be amazed at how well the car defies it's weight, I'm presuming the R35 would go along the same lines!
Let's be honest, American muscle cars are hopeless, they have hopeless amounts of power for their engine capacity sizes. Many of you are failing to look at where the power band is with cars like this, most of the speed will not be attained from the peak HP figure, you need to look at how much power it's making through the rev range, things like gearing of the car need to be considered as well. Suspension and the tyres play a big role in the lap times too.
Lastly, there's no point in a car having 500,600,700HP etc if it can't get the power to the ground, and that's why the GTR is so awesome.
I completely agree with you taaxed. some people just don't take into consideration the different factors in driving situations, the fact that you can take a corner faster bacause of the pheonomenal 4 wheel drive system means that you can exit a corner at a higher speed, and that inturn means a lower lap times, people also fail to consider the fact that this car has one of the lowest COD (co-efficient of drag) of almost any production vehicle to date. there are soooo many other factors involved when talking performance driving not just HP and weight. and besides if this car did indeed weigh 3800kg that would put it at a healthy 8400 pounds!!!! get your conversions right before you post people.
i dont really care what the haters say about this car, for me this car ROCKS :O)
The car weighs 1740kg, exactly! which is about 3828 after conversion.. Every one says its impossible.. What is this impossible that you people are talking about..A guy called "Xanavi23" said "physics is physics" WHAT A JOKE!! What is this physics? how did you know the limits of this physics, was is written in God's book that there are limits for car's physics!! thats really funny, people are improving within the physics everyday.. Put it this way: once upon a time there were some makers that were trying thier best to beat each other around a track by using the basics of racing cars, power, weight, brakes, and suspension. A while after that, a creature called Nissan was able to add a new tool in the theory, its called ATTESA E-TS, which basically combines all the previous tools and combines them together, perfectly, so that every aspect suits the other. Therefore, they were able to Re-arrange the laws of physics..
Lol...whatever Nitrous keep foolishly beleive everything you read...never questioning the FACTS. Im a nissan man...i love the New GT-R but 7:29 is bull, 7:38 is bull. The time for a STOCK GT-R should be at about the 7:45-7:55 region. Im a Nissan man but unlike you...i remain objective in my thoughts and see things as they truly are. Physics are Physics as set by the president(not the political sense) by other cars and by the general laws of power/mass and so on. Attessa is just a 4wd system that sends 100% of power to the rear wheels when they have total traction, when slippage occurs the send up to about 50% to the front wheels maybe a bit more...that will help it around a track in terms of stability which will allow it to maintain speed in corners as well and give it a few tenths by doing so. It DOES NOT account for making it beat a Carrera GT around the track. The Carerra GT is really a race car underneath its skin...its impossible for a stock GT-R to beat a car that has over 100hp more than it and weighs 500lbs less than it around a track, thats Physics. The Carerra is faster in the corners, its faster on the straights and yet somehow the stock" GT-r gets a better laptime ? I dont think so...actually im pretty sure i KNOW so. But go ahead beleive what Nissan tells you with a silver spoon ;)
I swear that quote from once upon a time should be framed up somewhere it was that good..... I couldn't have said it better myself. It?s amazing how people just don?t get it.
Also these records are legit for sure. Nissan is not going to go out of their way to claim something so they can be discredited later. They are in front of the world here and the Japanese pride themselves on respect and honor. They wouldn?t want to be shamed. They are constantly testing this car to see what it can do. Why would they risk trying to boost power and risk breaking down like Audi? Even when the car was in sheep clothes, pictures revealed that the interior was all complete so they were testing the actual car.
The GT from Porsche is rear drive. GT-R is all wheel=out of turns quicker. GT is a big v10. GT-R is v6= faster response time accelerating out of corners especially with turbos spooling up faster air than a engine with no boost. There is no evidence to prove this number is incorrect. Watch the reviews. Every detail in the car has a purpose. They even put nitrogen in the tires and plasma in the cylinder linings to get the most out of it. Also the GT is a big car to throw around, but the Nissan is so much easier to drive. Some cars weigh less and have more HP than the Nissan, but they are not as fast. Nissan knows how to get all the power to the ground from this well balanced machine. Numbers don?t lie and if Nissan boosts the performance on the test, they can get sued for false advertizing and I don?t think they need to risk that happening since orders have been backed up for all the countries Nissan will sell this to. Do you really think the decision to buy this car is because it is faster than the GT? It?s not worth lying here. Nissan is the real deal and have pride in one upping everyone.
I know that.. You dont! try to believe Nissan, PLEASE.. I swear they dont lie.. They're sooo cute and innocent.. Have some logic aswell.. coz u'll do better.. and check out the 7:38 laptime in youtube, they might break your physics "cage"
I think the times are the real deal. Nissan engineer Bruce Robinson said it best: “We don’t defy physics with the GT-R, we just apply it properly.” 'Nuff said.
Its an official lap record!! why would they even bother trying to fake it, the gtr has the goods, its a perfectly balanced machine, hence the transmission weight loading the rear wheels even though the gtr is a heavy girl there's nothing on the planet that's grips around and out of a corner like a gtr so even the cars that are lighter with more horsepower and more top end speed the gtr has already shaved seconds off the corners. also to take into account that the track was dry and the production car was used with a series of tires from the production line, i think the proto had slightly lower gearing with a lower top end speed, I don't think nissan took 7 years to make a car that wasn't going to be a little better than the skyline gtrs and espesically the r34 skyline gtr nur v-spec. I think the performance figures speck for them selves 0-100 in 3.5, 0-160 in 7 so there's no doubt that the nissan gtr can do the nurburgring in 7.29 that's what the car is designed to do.(Hence the 7 years development) Awesome job nissan, shes a honey
Look im not doubting that the GT-R is a very fast car...it moves man, it moves. Thanx for being respectful btw, appreciate it...But i mean it gets around faster than CGT...through the corners im sure it can have a slightly higher corner exit speed due to its traction(the GT-R) but we can agree the CGT is a very fast car...it has some traction issues but it can still clear corners with fairly highspeed due to its lightweight and great suspension in place. Furthermore, the CGT before being built was to be Porsches next LMP race car...but due to Audi wanting to maintain dominance at Le Mans it was stopped and re-tooled into a thinly desguised road car as we know it today, the CGT. Point being its a true race car for the street. As much as i love the GT-R and as godly as it is, i cant beleive it would beat a CGT around the 'Ring unless its horsepower was boosted at least somewhat.
Of the dynos ive seen even on GT-Rs in japan, they have dynoed at 480hp at the wheels, meaning crank horsepower is somewhere at around 530. Even if the GT-R can only do a laptime in the 7:45-7:55 region thats still a VERY VERY VERY good time, especially in relation to its competition, the CLK63, M3, RS4 etc. It would still be well ahead of all of its projected competition. Last Note, In My Opinion the GT-R is a very good car, its what the GT-R always should have been but i dont think it accomplished laps this fast being stock. Why would they fake it? Simple my man, publicity, one way or another they did hit a 7:29( Car wasnt stock but it hit it) so now that they have, its a very good marketing tool for a car designed for high performance driving, like all cars in its Segment.
First of all.. I'm not doubting the time, but which governing body has recognized this "official" record, other than Nissan? Regardless...
Frankly, I don't understand whatsoever where all of the import-fanboys get off talking trash on the ZR1 when they haven't even tried to lap the ring in a production model yet.
It would be one thing if they tried and failed, but at this point people are just being pathetic.
I'm not going to say it necessarily will, but what happens if it does beat this mighty Nissan? What sort of limp-wristed excuses will everyone come up with then?
I guess I just don't get you young guys... way back when, people would wait for actual results before they started talking trash...
i dont care what car wins. in the end if i had the money i'd buy them both, the best of japanese engineering, and the best in american muscle, both in my garage. :O)
your right Realist there are to many trash talkers and haters on this site, i don't know if the zr1 is going to beat the gtr in the ring, but it'll be a good fight. and if the corvette loses to the gtr so what? the GTR is a bad ass car. if you put a 4-wheel drive system, and all the computer tech systems of the gtr in ANY car, that car will basically out perform most other cars. the ZR1 rocks, but i would like chevy to realize that power isn't everything and see them put a system like this on the vette, i realize that it would be copying the GTR, but hey, you really can't design or build something these days without sort of coping someone else right? my hats off to the japanese for making such a kick ass car. can't wait till the SPEC V comes out to play in the ring!!!
GP900BJ...yes ive seen videos of the GT-R beating the GT3 on a track...the ONLY Porsche i mentioned was the Carerra GT super car...the car that was supposed to be a race car but was turned into a supercar instead when Audi wanted to keep winning and not let Porsche take away their shine. I never mentioned the Carerra GT3 or GT2. AIIIIIIIIIII THANNNNKKKK YOUUU ;)
Holy sh*t, you all sound like a bunch of f*cking whiny girls.
Its been on the 'ring but as far as i know its been just testing purposes, very covert ops slash no times released...yet.
just for the record, its not like porsche goes exactly by physics either. a car with a rear engine and such a bad weight distribtion has no business going so fast. but even as a porsche lvoer, i like the gtr, for the sole reason that now porsche is going to out-do it.
Exactly, as Nitrous said, the CGT is a mid-engine car as is the Boxter AND Cayman...the 911 is still Rear engine/Rear drive...because that kind of engine placement is what a Porsche has always been, specifically the 911. Furthermore as witness by wins in the GT3(now GT2) and GT2(NOW gt1) Racing categories there are ways to get around it, furthermore even street Porsches, 911Turbo can be VERY fast on the track when driven by an individual who knows how to drive the drive layout specific to Porsche. As for the GT-R i never mentioned its drivetrain layout, when i said physics...i was refering to the Physics of MASS/WEIGHT/KILOs/POUNDS.
First of all the Carrera GT is a mid-engined car. Secondly, the "most" important key in any car is the weight distribution. Without it, the car will handle as bad as nothing..
What are you talking about, Nissan is my favorite car company but i'll never beleive lies. Secondly i know A GT-R did a 7:29 on the 'Ring...but it sure as heck wasn't stock ;)
Go GTR...kill the porsches! Leave them for dead! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand why it is so hard to believe that the R35 GTR can beat a Carrera GT around the green hell. There was an article in a magazine (don't remember which one, probably EVO or CAR) a few months ago where they put a racing driver in a MkV Golf GTI with 2 passengers, started the lap from a roll where there was an avg joe chasing it behind in a Carrera GT and the Porsche could not overtake the Volkswagen until 3/4 way into the lap. The key to a fast car around the track is a balanced car with a talented driver, think an "underpowered" Honda NSX with Senna driving it.
And did I mention the Golf GTI vs. Carrera GT was done at the Nurburgring also...
it just proves that the gtr can outperform even with its obesity problems. or you can flat out blame drivers that they cannot drive in the past. however, if you only consider power to weight ratio and some basic stuff...nissan shouldve closed down already, not straight up shoving their middle fingers at cars more pricy and cant do what this lard of fat does around the same track
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