Stretched 'Ferrari' 360 Limosine
Ferrari Not Impressed With Stretched 360
Threatens to sue
Threatens to sue
Ferrari tuning, some see it as blasphemous while some argue that everything, including prancing pony super cars, can be improved upon. Most tuning companies draw the line at new rims, over-sized rear spoilers and carbon-fibre body kits, but sometimes you come across more extremely 'tuned' cars.
One of these extreme cars is the stretched 2000 Ferrari 360 which seats 8 people and is now on sale on eBay for GBP 150,000 (Euro 195,000). This is not a collectors item, this is a business all on its own and comes with two website URL's and will cost customers GBP 700 an hour to rent. The eight carbon fibre sport seats can be accessed through two huge electric gullwing doors.
Ferrari headquarters however are not amused by this unique Ferrari and sent out their lawyers to ask Dan Cawley, the current owner, to remove all Ferrari and 360 Modena badges from the car. Reasoning behind it is that the 6 meter long limo is no longer an actual Ferrari and that he is infringing on their copyright.
Cawley asks in return via TimesOnline: “What kind of precedent does it set when you can’t do what you like with your own property?”
Source: TimesOnline via Autoblog.nl
THERENAISSANCEMAN
March 13, 2008 11:01:20 PM
what ? and spoil Verdano's fun ? naaaahh....
super_car_muscle_man
March 20, 2008 3:34:04 AM
there are a lot of comments here but i think the most important question is... i wonder how much the 0-62 time would have been affected lol
carcrazy1234
March 13, 2008 11:46:21 PM
wth?? Ferrari your stupid... he bought the car... he can do ANYTHING he wants to the car.. seriously do u see honda or other car company's spazzing over overly tuned ricers that make their cars overweight with big ass exhausts??? that may be a different story... BUT he bought the car with his money, therefore he can do whatever he pleases with the car he bought. i still think this stretched limo is a little over done, but thats the owners choice!
122
March 14, 2008 8:32:43 AM
Agreed. the guy already has other cars that he's stretched, and they all seem to be ok. Seriously, how dare they tell someone what he can and can't do with his own stuff.
dmanero
March 14, 2008 12:21:34 AM
Ferrari sue their ass. if you going to ruin a Ferrari at least have the common decency to debadge it.
johnnyg
March 14, 2008 2:57:28 AM
I am going to have to side with Ferrari on this one. The guy just totally ruined this car to the point it is no longer a Ferrari. It's one thing to own it and have it be soley yours. But he is trying to profit off of this. De-badge it...
schizo0223
March 14, 2008 5:18:15 AM
Altough it is rather tasteless, the limo guy has a point. It's his. He paid for it. No matter if he does make financial benefit (ie. renting it out for hire) he bought it...Ferrari sold it...transaction was made...end of story.
You don't see a designer telling a fat ugly guy to remove the labels of his suit for altering it and replacing the buttons with pink ones!
benzboy
March 14, 2008 5:43:29 AM
Ferrai, you prancing horse, ASS! The man has a bill of sale, buy a vowel, get a clue and and most importantly, get over yourselves. This man could have made this car out of a fiero. LOL
_M7_
March 14, 2008 6:22:06 AM
this hapens when you sales car to people how just have money and not taste ... this people dont know anything about cars like ferrari
jphxr
March 14, 2008 9:35:10 AM
i personally think the man has every right to do whatever he wants to with his car. But if he wants to sell that thing as a Ferrari, thats just not right.
samuelzeus
March 14, 2008 11:45:01 AM
Hi jphxr, I partially agree with you. I think this is a matter of the car with a badge of Ferrari(a prancing horse). Every company should be responsible for her trademarks and its quality of the product with them in any market. The article clearly stating that it is on sale. So there're absolutely right complain about his job UNLESS the badge was recognised as a 'mere part of design'.
radmeister
March 14, 2008 12:07:54 PM
Should be de-badged it's like pirated software/music/movies there is very little about it that is illegal when used for personal use without making profit. The problem comes when you take something that is not yours in this case the ferrari brand name and use it without the permission of the owner to gain profit. When you buy a car no matter what brand you purchase the car and the vehicle is your own property not the brand name. Just because you buy a ferrari doesn't mean now you own the copyright rights to ferrari as a brand. They have the right to claim their brand name off of anything they do not want to be affiliated with. Same way you cannot make a commercial for your product using other brands in it without the permission of the owner of those brands approval. That's why sometimes you see de-badged cars in commercials. If they go to court it will be a 5minute trial and ferrari will rightfully win, he has no ownership of the brand.
Joe_Limon
March 14, 2008 6:17:54 PM
If you have a ferrari that has been modified by any other tuning company you can still sell it with the ferrari badge still on it. Looks is a matter of perspective, some people say ew this is a ugly ferrari, other people may look at it as the nicest looking limo they have ever seen. He has a market that he can sell it to, so why not? If I had the opportunity to modify a super car and sell it for more then face value (even if it was something like this) I would do it. Good on the guy who made it, and suck it up Ferrari when you sold that car, you gave up all control over what happens to that car.
radmeister
March 15, 2008 3:45:50 AM
There is no such thing as matter of perspective on this one. Pure and simple ferrari legally owns all of its badges and name it has the right to ask car owners to de-badge their car whenever they feel like it. If you buy a can of coca cola do you own the Coca Cola logo now? You own the product but not the brand. All these brand names and logos are registered and copyrighted you cannot just slap them on anything. For example if this clown got into an accident in which him and 8 ppl would die do you think ferrari wants to be associated with that when really this has nothing to do with a ferrari.
roadrunner
March 14, 2008 2:27:46 PM
that is the coolest and best looking ferrari i've ever seen. seriously! ferrari should be honered and sue themselves for haven't come up with such a hyper limo yet. but today, worrying about the climate, it unfortunately isn't sensible anymore. but still, that's one awsome car.
phobos
March 14, 2008 4:04:10 PM
why does ferrari need a hyper limo? sue this guy..he destroyed a very decent ferrari 360
dmanero
March 14, 2008 4:13:20 PM
roadrunner - what are you 5. This is a degrace to Ferrari. If you say this is the best looking Ferrari you have seen, you eith have no taste or have no cool what the line up is of Ferrari.
pzigly
March 14, 2008 6:56:42 PM
I agree that this Ferarri is ruined, but most people who buy a Ferarri do not use it to its full potential anyway. They just use it to cruise and show off to stand out. This is the ultimate showoff cruiser and will stand out among all other limos. What is the point of debadging, everyone knows it was a Ferarri. Blind people will will even know its a Ferarri once they hear it. Unlike music this guy cant mass produce these limos like a remix, and collect the profit which can reduce sales of the original song. He only has one, and when he sells it to some guy in Dubai (lol) its not like Ferarri will loose out on any type of sale. Whoever buys this will want a limo or a show off toy, not a sports car. Who ever wants a sports car will buy a Ferarri not a Ferarri limo. They are 2 different demographics. Ferarri shouldn't even worry about this. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT FERARRI DONT MAKE LIMOS. Everyone knows that this is custom and not affiliated with Ferarri.
samuelzeus
March 15, 2008 6:51:39 AM
Hi pzigly, I guess you've gotta know that much of stereotype may not apply to car industry anymore just as you know that Porsche made suv and making luxurious four door sports. Then Ferrari can make whatever like sports limo in the future.
pzigly
March 15, 2008 10:25:30 AM
Porsche made an SUV and 4dr, but its a very sporty SUV and a very sporty car. I dont think Ferrari will ever start making limos. There is nothing sporty about them except maybe that it would go fast in a straight. Ferrari pride them selves on handling. They dont need to think about anything other than sports cars. They make enough money and they are not owned by anyone that will make them create one. Ferrari makes more money on products than profits from cars. They are too prideful to make a limo. For Ferrari making a limo is like selling out. To me if Ferrari makes a limo it will be like killing your favorite super hero.
johnnyg
March 14, 2008 6:58:06 PM
This is on his limo companies website and also has its own dedicated website. The guy is practically marketing this car as the first "genuine" Ferrari 360 Modena stretch limo. Only way it would be genuine is if it were made by Ferrari. So yes, Ferrari has every right to file a lawsuit.
pzigly
March 14, 2008 7:10:12 PM
If the guy said that this is a "genuine" 360 then he is an moron and/or looking for trouble and he should be sued. He needs to change it to custom 360.
pzigly
March 14, 2008 7:12:22 PM
Sry for grammer mistake. I wanted to put idio..t, but website wouldnt let me lol
johnnyg
March 14, 2008 7:24:31 PM
Joe_Limon- Yes, but those modified Ferrari's that we always see had Ferrari's permission/approval to do so. The guy is marketing this as " The world’s first and only Stretched Ferrari F1 360 Limousine". The car is sitting on a new chassis by the way, not the original. He is making a profit off of this and it's wrong.
carolinaluvr101
March 14, 2008 7:53:31 PM
Okay so what the man did is certainly sacrilege, but Ferrari shouldn't worry about it because everyone knows that the 360 was perfectly fine and nothing like this limo when it came out. They need to stop flipping out and so should everyone else here because most people who buy Ferraris (including the person(s) who buy this THING) are not petrolheads who already know the detailed specs. on the car the day its released, but people who buy the car to say, "Hey Bob, I just bought myself a FIIRR-ARRRR-EEE to stick my silicon-filled wife in." Although not every Ferrari driver is like this, you only need to watch the numerous videos on YouTube of people crashing their Ferraris to get an idea. Also consider what people who bought Nissan Skylines did to their cars; they painted them neon, they stuck nitros on them, they rebuilt the engines (that's a really good thing!), and they put on the most preposterous body kits on them. Yet, Nissan never let out a peep... only they did built the GT-R which cannot be tuned as easily. Sorry if that offended anyone!
johnnyg
March 14, 2008 8:14:57 PM
Nissan of Japan is trying to prevent people from moding the GT-R.
carcrazy1234
March 17, 2008 5:48:09 AM
waaaaat?? u nuts man?? how will THAT work lol GTR's have been modified right when they were bought by people RIGHT when it came out from the R32 to the R34??? do u have an article on that or wut?
ck314
March 14, 2008 8:44:02 PM
legally, ferrari would win, period.. the car might be yours but not the brand itself, which means youre not allowed to market something modified to the extreme it's become the opposite of what it was at the beginning.. in other words, you redefine your car? okay, but then rebadge it, this isnt new.. look at carlsson mercedes, gemballa porsche, and so many others, all REBADGED, so get a clue.. would you buy a picasso or a rembrandt, change it completely and leave the signature on??
puddingpuppet
March 15, 2008 11:54:16 AM
Just a nice little example of Ferrari trying to squeeze a profit out wherever they can. It's pathetic.
tootall
March 15, 2008 6:47:34 PM
Carolinaluvr101. Great point. However I am almost sure that the people who do perform those modifications on their Nissans, would probably keep their cars almost, because that is what they wanted. They simply built them to their personal specs as they so seem fit. So I don't think that Nissan would care. Because the original owners has kept them.
samuelzeus
March 16, 2008 5:04:12 PM
Being prideful about something is much about Ferrari but in past they used to make some cars like SuperAmerica 400, 410 superamerica(Ghia) and 412 which they were only luxurious purpose without much of sports utilities. For sure, they used to take that sort of business strategy to keep the company going. Had Ferrari made a limo at that time for the rich, no body would've surprised. Don't be too sure if they look back in the future.
ck314
March 16, 2008 5:21:13 PM
theres no analogy with this anyway.. the luxury ferrari's you mention were created with that phylosophy in mind, from scratch while this is simply an aberration of the original concept.. simply turn things around: would you find it logic to convert a maybach 62 into a raging racing car and leave all original logotypes on it?
pzigly
March 18, 2008 1:22:36 PM
They still make lux cars. The 612 is a Lux car, but will crush your ribs with a touch of the gas pedal. Any Lux car they make now will turn into a sports car with the push of that race button because there is soooo much competition now. They can not make anyting less than 400hp because it is in their blood now-a-days to stay on top. I sill dont think limo is in the equation for Ferarri at all because it is not in their blood.
gothspeed
March 20, 2008 7:09:49 PM
The guy should just rebadge it and be proud of his work.
wael
April 20, 2008 3:19:47 PM
think of it this way, many of us consider a ferrari to b a peace of art. should u purchase a dali, would u have the right to alter it in any way? (and before the lot of u say that a peace of art is unique, i have listed dali as a comparison for being one of the most amazing artists, yet highly commercial)...
also note, this exessive altering affects the performance and aerodynamics of the car... let alone the image of the brand.
those of u comparing it to honda or lexus, or whatever.... there is a slight difference in the brands.
wael
April 20, 2008 3:35:17 PM
think of it this way, many of us consider a ferrari to b a peace of art. should u purchase a dali, would u have the right to alter it in any way? (and before the lot of u say that a peace of art is unique, i have listed dali as a comparison for being one of the most amazing artists, yet highly commercial)...
also note, this excessive altering affects the performance and aerodynamics of the car... let alone the image of the brand.
those of u comparing it to honda or lexus, or whatever.... there is a slight difference in the brands.
i say sue him for this idiotic move.
alessandro
April 24, 2008 8:04:24 PM
Please tell him to make for next a jet fighter 25 feet longer and then fly it. It will be expensive, but impressive. Jss' my condolences Scuderia Ferrari! I'm sorry!
This is just a disgrace. I would file a lawsuit too!!