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2013 Cadillac XTS production version leaked

 2013 Cadillac XTS production version leaked
2013 Cadillac XTS production version leaked, 880, 10.11.2011

Debut in Los Angeles

A single image of the all-new 2013 Cadillac XTS has found its way to a slide show on Cadillac.com. With no fanfare we can only guess that this was a slip up, or perhaps a risky PR move with a few unsuspecting seed sites to put the scoop into motion.

Intentional or not, we already know the 2013 XTS will debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show in one week, so the timing of this alleged stumble is quite good.

Essentially a production version of the Cadillac XTS Platinum concept, the full-size sedan will replace the DTS and STS. As such, the car will feature a luxurious interior and the CUE infotainment system.

Power is likely to come from a 3.6-liter V6 engine with 318 hp (237 kW / 322 PS) and 275 lb-ft (372 Nm) of torque. Front-wheel drive will be standard but all-wheel drive should be optional.

The LA Auto Show opens to the media on November 16.

Source: jalopnik.com
Published Nov 9, 2011 7:57 pm By Brian Potter
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ALMERAIKHI
FWD!!!!! V6!!!! This is not a cadillac and this not American! this is a german wannabe
Nov 10, 2011 11:23 pm
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Grey
umm all the germans ur thinking of are RWD and v8 lol
Nov 12, 2011 1:08 am
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autoficianado
You people don't get it. THIS IS NOT CADILLAC's FLAGSHIP. Though it replaces the DTS & STS it will occupy the same role as the (FWD) ES 350 does for Lexus while the Lexus GS supposedly handles the sportier side. The CTS will become slightly larger to compete against the E class & 5 series as the sport sedan offering. Cadillac is making a Flagship that will compete against the S class and the 7 series but it will be a proper flagship. Rear wheel drive, powerful efficient engines and sybaritic luxury.
Nov 10, 2011 6:34 pm
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oskarl_benz
It's a nice car, in all terms. But for the pricing I would ALWAYS prefer a Mercedes over any Cadillac or Lincoln. They simply do not have that nice riding, they do not have that STATUS Appeal, that Good Taste and that REAL LUXURY combined with High Tech. Good Work Cadillac. Awesomely, Extraordinary Work Mercedes, that E Class is not nice, is beautiful; can't wait to see upcoming S Class.
Nov 10, 2011 1:37 pm
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autoficianado
You people don't get it. THIS IS NOT CADILLAC's FLAGSHIP. Though it replaces the DTS & STS it will occupy the same role as the (FWD) ES 350 does for Lexus while the Lexus GS supposedly handles the sportier side. The CTS will become slightly larger to compete against the E class & 5 series as the sport sedan offering. Cadillac is making a Flagship that will compete against the S class and the 7 series but it will be a proper flagship. Rear wheel drive, powerful efficient engines and sybaritic luxury.
Nov 10, 2011 6:33 pm
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Dude von Dudenstein
We finally have a proper Cadillac again! This is what a Cadillac ought to be. Big, long, heavy and dripping with luxury, leather and wood. Like the Ciel Concept.
Nov 10, 2011 12:26 pm
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norther
i see the first and most heated comments are about the styling of this car. but before the styling, i really must know... 300+ horse through the front wheels??? im curious what kind of diff the car would have (if any at all). is this in a class with the A6, 5 series, and E class?
Nov 10, 2011 10:28 am
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benz_man
Cadillac has been sending 300tqs through the front wheels for well over a decade now, Im not too worried about tq steer, its pretty easy to engineer out of a design at the ground floor if you know you'll be sending lots of power to the front wheels when you start R&D. More than likely it will have equal-length, different diameter half-shafts and some form of electronic differential lock to proportion the tq side to side through brake inputs.
Nov 10, 2011 4:00 pm
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autoficianado
I couldn't have said it better myself Benz man. GM calls the solution HiPer strut which tames that old torque steer monster for FWD applications. It is a ,more sophisticated front suspension that doesn't let power delivery affect steering since in FWD both are put down by the same wheels. It is also used in the Buick Regal GS and some Opel applications.
Nov 10, 2011 6:26 pm
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schizo
Better than the current flagships on sale. I don't like the way all GM cars look like it has the same center stack HVAC control/infotainment system. I'm sure there are differences but it looks like it came from the same supplier as Hyundai... Goodluck to Cadillac...sure could use some extra flavor in that sector of the market.
Nov 10, 2011 2:10 am
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SebXX
It doesnt look too bad, I like the interior (but dont' understand where the rear headrests are hidden, is it one large for all rear passengers or what?)
Nov 10, 2011 12:31 am
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PAA
Now I envy people living in America. I would definitely buy this car compared to any other luxury car.
Nov 10, 2011 12:21 am
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Grey
its a nice car i like it but i wouldnt go that far lol
Nov 10, 2011 1:54 am
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PAA
why not buddy, I am truly tired of all the Audis Mercedes and BMW flocking the streets. For this reason I was considering the Saab 95 which is kind of more unique. Now if I had the choice of this Cadillac I would definitely go for it.
Nov 10, 2011 7:27 am
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Grey
true true i had a saab 95 it was a rather fun to drive zippy car quite a big difference from the Q45 i had. anywayz exclusivity is good i hate paying $50k for a car and all my neighbor have the same car... might as well buy a Camry!
Nov 10, 2011 11:19 am
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IGoSlow
Front wheel drive?? That doesn't make sense.
Nov 9, 2011 9:47 pm
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Grey
it got an AWD option like the Audis are all FWD with the Quattro option?
Nov 10, 2011 1:43 am
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ScottCampbell
The previous DTS and STS were so plain(like Ford's Crown Vic) but this shows improvement. I hope they concentrate on quality rather than quantity.
Nov 9, 2011 9:17 pm
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RobERob
Nice status symbol! Not sure how it will age but for someone who never turns a head in Caddy's direction, I have to admit, I love this design. Not one bad angle to it.
Nov 9, 2011 8:13 pm
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benz_man
Proportions are all wrong.
Nov 9, 2011 8:01 pm
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SIRSAL70
and an E-Class is an even uglier looking vehicle like a giant Hyundai.
Nov 9, 2011 8:04 pm
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benz_man
Take a breath buddy, never said it was ug, but the short dash to axle ratio and long rear overhang make this look like its FWD... How many people do you know that spend $40-50K on FWD cars?
Nov 9, 2011 8:08 pm
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Grey
the E-class is rather unproportional with the big snout and the slim tail but i think it works for it. its a pretty car i would buy it. To me, the last good looking E-class sedan was produced umm 1986? lol
Nov 10, 2011 1:58 am
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Grey
i think ur abit biased against FWD there Mr BENZ man lol As everyone already know from previous posting abt this car, it got an AWD option. This car is replacing the DTS that tend to be purchase by more conservative driver and fleet/limo sale and it is also replacing Caddys sport sedan the STS. Fleet buyers would not care one way if its fwd or rwd unless they really wants their drivers to do wheelies around town. for everyday all season driving fwd is definitely the way to go versus RWD that is. if people really want performance then get the AWD option! pretty obvious logic to figure it out.
Nov 10, 2011 1:53 am
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benz_man
From reading my posts on the XTS it would appear I hate FWD like a disease, however, Im actually a fan of FWD...in its right place. But the bigger issue isnt how I feel about FWD, its how this cars target market feels about FWD. And the answer to THAT question is far less positive than my answer. You talk about previous DTS buyers and retail buyers like thats the market GM wants for its new products. The ENTIRE point of the XTS (and most new GM models, actually) is to get younger, more affluent buyers attracted to the brand. Heavy fleet/rental buying ruins resale value and prestige. Cadillacs goal is to climb upmarket and become a serious player in the luxury field, the previous STS being the closest thing to its target yet. Vehicles at this level dont have to be RWD based (Audi), but they absolutely cannot look FWD. Even if AWD became standard on the XTS, it'd still be an uphill battle because the extremely short D2A ratio is a dead giveaway of a transverse engine. People buying at this level feel this "FWD look" is for the lesser, average people buying Sonatas and Camrys. Theyre successful and want a vehicle that shows they are powerful and above the average. For example, Audi dealers may order a whopping 50-60% of its A4's as FWD, but only 10-20% of A6s ordered are FWD, and Audi's dont even "look FWD". This is the exact problem Honda is having with Acura. They cant pass the "entry luxury" threshold because no one considers their products true luxury goods. But, how many people drop $70K on M56's?
Nov 10, 2011 10:12 am
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4everRS
Replying to benz man's reply, I'm not sure that you understand the "target market for this car". I will say that old people are the market for this car. And old people are not on WCF and they probably like FWD. (I don't, but it doesn't matter, I wouldn't buy this car either way). I bet they sell the hell out of them - to old people, who like the traction of fwd in slippery conditions. Plus old people have more money to spend on a car like this. Like I tell my kids, "Grandma's and Grandpa's have money, mommies and daddies don't."
Nov 10, 2011 11:09 am
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Grey
i know u hate FWD like a disease buddy LOL but FWD look? basically smaller nose and elongated body right? well like they said beauty is in the eyes of the beholder ;-) i myself prefer the dignify big snout/hood look of a muscle car over the smallish nose but this caddy actually looks good. caddy is definitely trying to move up scale and attract younger buyers hence the CTS! but GM also need cash flow and fleet sales are a big chunk of it. this car like i said is a multi talented car aim at the likes of the Towncars and the E-class at the same time. i think the towncars are stately but snoozey looking but i rather be in the FWD version of this caddy! looking at the standard engine option it that 318hp v6 sure give u alot more than the standard engines of the E and 5 germans i say and it will be cheaper too. putting awd into it will be quite formidable and this is just the standard engine! like i said this is a multi talented car aimed to replace two cars of different classes. im sure there is a RWD based STS lurking around the corner lol btw i like hooting for the under dogs ;-)
Nov 10, 2011 11:14 am
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benz_man
@4everRS, Id be inclined to agree with you if Cadillac hadnt previously stated their goal, with new products, is to bring the median age of Cadillac buyers down drastically (old people die-off, cant base a successful long-term business model on what a single generation of elderly appreciate...thats what got Cadillac into this mess to begin with). I guess, just like the last XTS post, we need to see what pricing will be like to truly determine who Cadillac is going for with this. If it only replaced the DTS, I'd agree with you handily, but lumping STS's target buyers in together really makes this a questionable pursuit. If all else fails, Im pretty sure rental agencies would buy these by the dozens...but that leaves Cadillac in the same place it started the millennium in.
Nov 10, 2011 11:31 am
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benz_man
@Grey, I happen to appreciate FWD when its called for. FWD packaging can be drastically more efficient, and a small, low powered, lightweight FWD car can be an absolute riot to drive if put together correctly (like my mk2 Jetta). The "FWD look" i speak of is known in the industry as a "short dash to axle ratio", where the base of the A-pillar is closer to the axle-centerline than the nose of the car. This look, in itself, will prevent the XTS from becoming any real competition for the Germans. DTS buyers will LOVE XTS, if they were buying DTSs, they dont expect much anyway... But E/5/A6/GS buyers? They'll look and laugh. Im rooting for Cadillac also. While never having personally owned any, Ive driven more than my fair share, and appreciate what they offer. Thats why im so upset about this product. If this is a DTS/STS replacement, why would you assume there is a RWD STS in the works? Isnt that what "replacement" means? I've heard the next CTS will grow into E/5/A6/GS competition, but thats hearsay and years away. And, the E350CGI has a little over 300HP, the only 6 cyl 5 you can buy (535i) has the significantly underrated N55 twin-turbo I6 making AT LEAST 310HP, so Cadillac isnt overpowering them either.
Nov 10, 2011 3:48 pm
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Grey
U actually mean Base of the A-pillar is closer to the center of the drive/propeller shaft not the Axle than the nose of the car. center of the axle mean left to right not front to back profile, but ur basically saying what im saying longer snout/hood is the RWD look. and the BASE engine of this car is alot more powerful than any BASE engine of the E/5/A6 regardless of cylinder counts and this car will be alot cheaper too. handling wise if they tune the suspension, steering and body rigidity correctly... the base model of this FWD caddy can out perform the BASE E/5/A6(fwd). The base models of this entire class are not exactly performance vehicle... the E is way over priced, the 528 got a peeeeetiful 2.0 i4 and the a6 got a turbo 2.0 i4! i dont think these under power engines will over ran the drive train fwd or rwd lol basically at the entry lvl trim of this class of car are just plush status cruisers. also ur forgetting one thing the ever growing chinese market ummm i can see it now those chinese loooooves BIG chromey shiney cars! this baby will sell like hot cakes over there! the bigger it is the more chrome it is the more the chinese will drool!!! they are all lusting over last generation buicks which are total junks! i can almost guarantee that this car will be market in china and will like hot cakes there!
Nov 10, 2011 4:50 pm
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benz_man
Dude, how old are you?
Nov 10, 2011 8:02 pm
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Grey
old enough to differentiate between fanboyism and actually understanding actual automotive marketing... umm DUDE have u even bought a car with your own money yet even?
Nov 12, 2011 1:05 am
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benz_man
Wow, I havent been called a fanboy in a while. I guess, my different opinion comes from being on the "inside" of it all. Working at the stealership for so long now I see what people ACTUALLY do with their money and why. Something as simple as buying a car you like is usually up to what the dealer has on his lot, (VERY few people come in and order a car). Dealers dont want cars sitting on their lots cause the bank wants a return on the car (that they just bought the dealer) so dealers only order what sells (thats why their are so few FWD A6s, and FWD A8s arent even offered in the states). If you sell luxury cars, how many people do you think are coming in asking for a base model with no options? I also spend lots of time reading SAE and individual manufacturer (and MOST importantly, Tier-1 supplier) press/technical material to stay on the cutting edge of what is in this industry. Between the two im pretty confident in my views on the market as a whole, and luxury manufacturers specifically. I asked your age because you speak of vehicles like an "outsider"; someone who isnt in, under, beside, on-top-of and around cars all day-every day. Drive/propeller shaft...really? Who do you know that really doesnt call an axle-shaft an axle-shaft? And EVERYONE who knows anything about an engine can tell you, without thinking twice, that VW and BMWs 2.0T are phenomenal engines that put most 6 cylinders to shame and disgrace with their power delivery. My age and credentials are readily accessible on my WCF page, where are yours? And, purchased my first car in 2003 at age 17, 16 year old volvo... what a piece. VA Department of Motor Vehicles sais Ive titled 11 vehicles since then.
Nov 12, 2011 11:05 am
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Grey
ok duuuude your screen name is BENZman, your picture is the Mercedes star. You boasts and cheers ALL THINGS German/Mercedes! YOU SIR ARE A FAN BOY! anyone can BS anything they want on their WCF profile. I can say I'm the lead designer, engineer and CEO of Ferrari or a true automotive insider who knows it all by saying i "work at a dealership" and anyone can google anything pseudo technical you post on here. Any who like everyone else
Nov 13, 2011 2:51 pm
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