2013 Dodge Viper Coupe & Roadster spied for the first time

Thats the numbers for the old viper. The one b4 that was 500 hp. with a few mods they got it to 600 hp, So i expect about 700-800 hp from the next model. This engine is not being used to its full potential at all. This car can accel as manytimes as u want it effortlessly without worrying about heating issues in an endurance race. http://www.viperheadquarters.com/media/viper-news/2011/05/232.html I dont really like this car either cuz they havent tapped in to its potential at all. They also need to get the handeling of this car better. That big ass engine will kill u if u get it wrong. Im all for manual cars, but if it came to living with a little aid vs dieing with no aid, then i would choose having a little aid. Imagine this car with 750hp and a dual clutch transmission, with better suspension and a track mode similar to the 458 or the new mclarean.

600 still isn't even close to enough when you have lighter cars at a lower price point coming out next year, such as the new editions of the Camaro and Mustang (North American examples specifically). I agree with you though, if they worked on the suspension a little more, got that weight down a bit and hit 750, that car being NA would be an untouchable monster, no turbo lag at all and no heating issues.

this car is cheap quality but its still a super car. even if the camaro was 700-800 hp, a 600hp viper will still be faster because its lower to the ground, wayyy lighter and has tires as wide as a fat guys waist lol. regarding the weight this car is 100-200 pounds heavier than the 911. if it werent for the huge engine this car would probably be lighter than a 911.

don't like 600bhp either but you can't expect it to have a naturally aspirated like a BMW or Honda. Defeats the purpose of a Viper... kind of like a Ferrari with a 600bhp 8.4L v10.

I kinda guess they deliberately chose not to. Being a full on muscle car, they need whopping torque for that brutal feel, yet they still need some horsepower for the engine to work hard enough for some acceleration and better top end on every gear I guess. It guess it would not be muscle car if it has a screaming low torque high power engine @ 9000rpm, very much the same that nobody could imagine a Ferrari with a torqy engine like the one on the Viper.

I dont see why people make the muscle car excuse everytime. This is why ford, gm, and chrystler were going under because these companies decided to be cheap and not work on suspension, making the engine more efficient, designing cheap interiors, and installing cheaper tires that killed people because they decided to order tires from firestone that did not support the weight of the explorer. americans car compaines just decide to put in a big engine and say we might not have hp but we have torque! thats BS!!!! my V6 Nissan sedan could beat an 04 mustang v8 in a drag race with EASE off the line and in the quarter mile while still getting 25 mpg and the ford getting less than 20. So dont give me that weak ass muscle car excuse when its perfectly clear that if it werent for the americans finally waking up and spending cash on making their cars able to compete, they would have been gone! people want efficency over getting cheap crap that wastes gas. A 800 hp viper is very possible with that engine. It will not have low torque and even if the torque is not on par with the HP it will still be more than what it is now! It will still be a monster and it will still sound great. It will be more complete and actually sell.

so confused... Viper post and talks about efficiency have 0 correlation. Your 3.xL V6 Nissan is not efficient, does not make 100hp/L, is not a newly developed engine and why aren't you putting a year on your Nissan but divulging the V8 Mustang. Would I like to see an American car with an N/A 150hp/L engine? Sure! Just keep the Viper name off it... You have to be crazy to think a Viper is supposed to be a volume selling car! It's pure unadulterated American muscle... if you want something efficient go with a GTR. Don't hate on a car for what being different and sticking to its guns.

its an 06 altima, but they have made that engine since 02. The point of putting in a big engine in a car is to go fast. The point of putting big ass tires and making a car low to the ground is to make it handle corners and able to put power to the ground. We all know this car isnt a mass produced car. Ferrari isnt a mass produced car either but they are sucessful. viper isnt sucessful becasue people that can afford it arent happy with it. If this car met its potential it might actually sell and help chrystler sell their main units. I think most people want to see the viper suceed its a beautiful monster. But this car has way more potential than what it is now, its like knowing a kid could be the next kobe bryant of basketball but his drug problem is holding him back. Sheer american muscle car doesnt have to mean unadvanced, uncontorlable, cheap, and useless. vette made their car better and its selling better than ever. vette has more hp, smaller engine, control better, and no one thinks its anyless american muscle

and my car is not considered a sports sedan. Its an nissan detuned 350z engine that still manages 71.4 hp/L. the viper "supercar" makes 59.5 hp/L. Thats pathetic.

Our colleague here is right, boy and girls - it's just a mule. And it sounds silly and funny to say that 600bhp is "sooo low". Come on, people - do you know what you can do with 600 ponnies? :D And the article states it's gonna have more than 600, but no clue on how much exactly. And as far as i remember, here in Europe where you have to import the Viper, meaning it's going even more expensive than in the USA, it's still pretty cheap for a car that can go up to more than 186mph... How many of you can say they can drive this beast to its limits without big efforts? I bet the number will be very low. Imagine what happens with 1000bhp! ;)

I agree with hitar. This is a naturally aspirated engine with output predicted to be over the 600 bhp (450 kW / 608 PS) and 560 lb-ft (760 Nm) of torque mark. They could dial up the Horsepower numbers and deliver 700+ hp or more but the telling clue is the torque output. There are twin-turbo V8s, V10s and some V12s that can't match the torque numbers. That being said I am disappointed as I do think the engine is too large. Chrysler should have replaced and downsized the Viper engine with a twin-turbo version of the 5.7 Hemi and or 6.3 Hemi engine. they could have made or exceeded the power requirements while also being more efficient and increasing mileage.

You have to keep in mind that this car is heavy and I mean very heavy indeed. This isn't a family car that has been modified to run as a sports car, nor is it running off of some sort of shared platform, this is a true sports car and as such 600hp barely comes close to cutting it at this point in time when you take a look at its power to weight ration. The Z01 let alone the ZR1 blow this vehicle away with slightly less power, meanwhile most of the Germans have similar diet problems to the Viper and thus put out over 600hp. Also, it won't be that much higher than 600hp as the company is sticking with an evolved version of the same a V10 (which started as a truck engine by the way), so unless they do something radical to the design, they are quite limited in terms of what they will do while keeping the vehicle reliable enough for most of their customers's tastes. I was lucky enough to drive one of these at Mosport about 5 years ago and I can tell you, underpowered doesn't even begin to explain the problems this car has in relation to its modern peers (it needs to go on a diet or increase the power, heck a SRT8 Challenger puts out almost this much power and from the same family and with an eight, though it's not a prime example of advancement either). Heck my SC400 with 350hp (modified) hits over 185mph as well with about a 12sec run on the 1/4 mile, it's all about power to weight.

I should add to be fair, the SRT10 which I haven't driven has made progress in the weight area as it has gone down over the years, but it still needs work there.

This car is not that heavy. 100-200 pounds more than a 911 which is not much.

It's a mule, heck even the one they were developing with Mercedes looked different enough from the original.

Not only that, you end up also with an incredibly reliable and bulletproof engine.

People make a fuss because American car companies lack the rudimentary skills to make smaller more efficient engines that can make high HP numbers. The Viper is an anchor (literally and figuratively) holding back, no clinging to the lie that there is no replacement for displacement. BMW, M-B, and others get monster torque from smaller, more efficient, and equally powerful engines. And, the Viper ain't no Dodge Neon so saying the the cost of the European cars is prohibitive won't fly. Imagine the Viper with a smaller displacement equally powerful engine situated further back in the engine bay making it more front midship with the handling benefits that come with it. Handling has never been the Viper's forte.

Total agree! Viper= Harley Ferrari/Audi/Porsche/Lambo= Honda, suziki, yamaha. It?s a Lifestyle car.