Ferrari FF & Lamborghini Aventador sold out for first model year - report

I wouldn't call it avant-garde, since the shooting brake had once been around and then died. Also, I think that most of the sales of the FF and the Aventador were to people who want the next Ferrari, like footballers and such. Example: you think C. Ronaldo really appreciated his 599GTB as a Ferrari should be before totaling it? Or was it more because of a big bank account? However, as for the car itself, I admit the FF is growing on me. Its design is quite well executed, and after seeing its performance in the snow it really has appeal. There's definitely something to be said about being able to conquer a rally course in a Ferrari.

@ Edison , Ferrari customers would buy anything with that logo on it. they usually have more money than common sense and really bad taste. i'm talking about Russian mobsters, rich Arabs, footballers, rappers , etc.

@Scratchy and Dbehmoaras........... Regardless of who is buying these cars and how bad their taste is and how poorly they appreciate the cars.... ASSUUMING this report is 100% accurate, one outstanding fact still remains and it flies in the face of the naysayers: the FF sold out its entire 1st model year! Haha! How cool is that, huh?

So dbehmoaras, and scratchy, am I to understand that people who buy Ferraris couldn't possibly like their cars, it's just because of the badge??? I could understand such arguments if the cars we are talking about here have no real performance, styling, or substance to back it up, but both of these cars do, in spades. These cars are masterpieces of design and engineering, and I think many people would purchase these cars if they had the means. Also, how whould you recommend a Ferrari be properly appreciated?.. Not driving it fast? Just because a "footballer" crashes his 599 doesn't mean that he didn't appreciate his purchase (BTW, isn't going fast is what a Ferrari is for). BTW, I am aware that the shooting brake concept is nothing new and neither is 4WD, but it is when both are tried on a production Ferrari.

@ Edison , the Lambo is cool, but the Ferrari is fugly, people only like it because of the badge.

No, I'm just making a generalization of the majority of Ferrari's customers. Of course there are plenty of Ferrari enthusiasts (DJ Chris Evans, for example), but there are much more who buy them just for the badge, which is a shame. I guarantee you if a brand like Honda produced a car that matched its performance, style, etc... a rich oil mogul/footballer...would not even go near it. Fact. And Edison, your comment doesn't make much sense because any idiot can drive a Ferrari fast, but that does not mean he appreciates the work that goes into it like a real enthusiast would. It just means he knows how to have fun (and in Ronaldo's case, further the point that he is a POS, but he didn't need any additional proof for that as we all know). I didn't say that the cars don't have the engineering or design to back them up. That's actually the contrary to the point I'm trying to make. Take the LFA, for example. That is a brilliantly engineered car. It has one of the best built engines the world has ever seen, drives very well, looks phenomenal, and yet Lexus is having a harder time selling them. The price is not a valid reason, because if you're in the market for that kind of car money certainly is not an issue. Fact. The problem is that very few people actually appreciate the LFA properly, and because Lexus does not carry the same brand aura that Ferrari does, it is only those few who actually know cars that see the how good of a car it really is.

Don't worry, as soon as you start adding options it will be closer to that anyways

With Vat the Avenatdor costs around 310k ?. still bargain if u compare it to LF-A or a pagani hayabayabusa for example.

Let me guess...are you 12 or 13?

well they have already started to produce the aventador actually.

Hommestar Since I clearly don't understand, why not explain it to me instead of insulting me... like a 12 year old. I guess it's something I'm not getting here. I don't understand how they could be "sold out" it's not like theyve already built 400 cars, and theyve all been sold.

it's hand made because the volume won't justify them to build all those automations like the mass production cars but hand made has zero assumption that it has better quality.. but i guess 99% people like to hear the word handmade when being ripped... ferrari and lambo are always sexy and exclusive... hope to be a tycoon one day and afford one of these...

Well of course that too. Goes without saying - as the practice is rooted in producing high quality/ brand experience/ exclusivity etc. Like you, I'm looking to pull out the stops to get my self an Aventador..I'll pass of the FF :-P

It was never reported definitively that Lamborghini/Ferrari sold the entirety of these numbers at Geneva. A couple of points you may want to keep in mind. The Aventador was privately showcased to very select groups (longtime auto/Lambo enthusiast) in several different showings, in which Aventador were preordered! A next point - one does not need to be present at an auto show to purchase a new automobile- if you're a mover & a shaker things happen much easier. Another point - The auto show and these presentations did not take place for 5 minutes and then vanish - the number of orders could've easily come in over the course of the past few days thus making the number of "1,800" obsolete when compared to crowd census. And for the record the yearly unit production of the Aventador probably won't exceed far beyond 400, if even that. So you can estimate that they sold out around 400 units as opposed to your "1000". The Lambo "Salon" in LA wouldn't buy 20 of this particular car on the spot because the car isn't a one size fits all sort of deal. And to that point - the LA salon, as you put it, most likley wouldn't be given such a high priority of the first batch when this immediate release is somewhat preferential to the European market. Lastly - the "boys" which attend the Geneva show tend to be wealthy and come to purchase. So yes rad - they do carry around that kind of money - not neccessarily in the form of cash but they've got bank... That shouldn't even need an explanation...

Or did you mean to say that customers purchased through their local Lamborghini dealers? That would be a more plausible route.

"-pricing starts at" +VAT.

yup. in time that is when dumb critics start to realise its beauty, which also by that time we are already looking forward for the next design language.