Rumor mill: 600 HP for the Audi RS7?

which leads to a M T M 750HP Version, yess plzzzz!

Nnnnooo...would Audi acctually do this to BMW?

ooo yeee this news makes my day :) 4.0 twin turbo V8 = 600HP nice :)

DO IT!!

As evidenced by most of Audi's sport lineup, especially the S5, RS5, S6 and RS6, Audi needs more than brute horsepower to beat its RWD competition from M and AMG. The RS5 and RS6 produce nearly just as much, if not more HP than the M3, M5, C63 and E63, their major competitors. Still I have yet to see or read a single review in which the S/RS models were able to out-handle and ultimately out-rank the competition from Stuttgart and Munchen. I hope Audi will focus on the dynamics ie. handling, ride and fun factor to make a car that will absolutely blow the competition away instead of putting all their efforts into squeezing as much HP from a hopelessly downsized engine. As of recently, the R8 and B8 S4 have showed Audi's potential in dominating the opponents, and they will need to do more of that.

The M5 will dominate the RS7.

Of the three premium automotive titans of Germany, Audi has the most teutonic engineering approach. Many of the recent reviews of the mark's lineup suggested an impecable level of driving aids' meticulousness at the expence of driver involvement. It is much like the German national football team of the 70s, 80s, and 90s: a deffencive, unentertaining, almost mechanized phylosophy that is only effective at the other end of the field when the opponent is thouroughly exhausted. This in essence conservative paradigm is still there in Audi, even though the national team moved on to a more exciting attacking football. The engines are still, and for many years shall be in front of the front axle, there will always be the quattro's all things to all wheels, and electronics will further expand the reach of their intrusive artificial inteligence. Even the most exciting Audi will always offer a ride, rather than a drive to its attache the driver, even if there are 600 ponis to be branded under the bonnett. Mark my point, however, were Audi by some miracle to move the engine behind the front axle in the next generation, hands down, my friends, it would very much leave Stuttgart and Munich in the wake. Time to play "total football."

Since B8 A4 and A5 the engines are no longer "in front" of the front axle. And do your really think that their objective is to be quicker on a race track with a street legal car? They all have their vision of things, and like thecarenthusiast wrote, Audi has the most engineering approach, look from where Audi is comming.

Audi performance cars are too heavy....look at the RS6. What Audi do is build a car that tries to do everything and falls between 2 stools - because of quattro it adds a lot of weight to a car and you have to honestly question if 4wd is absolutely vital in everyday driving...quite frankly I don't think it is. The extra weight blunts the handling (in the dry) and makes the car less fuel efficient. Audi should really consider doing a rear wheel drive car. The RS5 is just too heavy and most magazines are saying it needs to be 200kg lighter. If they made it rear wheel drive only they could increase their profit margins and reduce their costs of production. If Porsche can make a Carrera in 2 or 4 wheel drive then Audi should be able to offer the RS5 in rear wheel drive - Lambo did it. If they don't do it then they will continue to get beaten in comparison tests with the M3 and M5's of this world. The whole quattro thing is only relevant if you are in parts of the world that are covered in snow most of the year.

To each his own! M cars are slated more at the track minded people. RS cars for an everyday usage sorta way. Look at the last M5 whose SMG gearbox people complained about when used in everyday situations unlike the auto in the RS6. The RS and M cars maybe in the same brackets and will thus be compared but they apeal to drivers with a different mindset. Ask yourself this; which car is likely to habour a hooligan driver... Anyway is this the engine Audi is developing with Bentley?

"Horsepower wars are over" Who said that?

@bmw2002. As BMW is also introducing front wheel drive, will they now be fancy minis...? I agree with you on the weight saving but we should bear in mind that most of our perceptions about cars are based on what someone who has 'tested' the car says about rear wheel vs all wheel drive. But like i said before; to each his own.

@Uptohere. I am not saying one is better than the other...I am saying a front drive Audi with a small engine uses a VW engine, this is why I called it a fancy VW. BMW haven't yet taken engines from other companies and put them in their cars. VW's are great cars I'm just noting the engine is provided by VW. For the record I am NOT saying one is better than the other but I am saying rear wheel drive is better than front wheel drive regardless of the company/manufacturer.

600hp, WOW

With a sports diff, 60:40 power distribution and the front axle ahead of the engine i don't see how Quattro is so boring, if u've driven a front wheel drive Audi and the VW equivalent, u'll know Audi is not just a glorified VW... Some people can buy a car for the occasional track fun and for bragging rights, the rest buy cars which they can enjoy everyday irrespective of the climate or whether they carting the family around...

Ohhh yeah !!!!!!!!! Go for it !!!!!

Too bad the A7 is ugly...

Ridiculous doesn't quite cover the German Power War right now! This is why the seminal Veyron makes sense in an age of 'Green Motoring'!