Cadillac ATS confirmed - new details emerge

yes BM keep flattering yourself.

Flattering myself? I have never owned a Cadillac and have nothing to do with them. I just know so much about cars I can tell when something is good and I give credit where it is due.

Oh, really. Just be glad Cadillac is being invited to the party. It is at the "We are comparable and competitive" stage. Remember, it is still under the dinosaurship..er..ownership of GM.

Comparable and competitive? I've witnessed CTS-Vs handing M3s, RS4s, and AMG MBs their asses on the track, repeatedly. Oh, and they do it for thousands of dollars less. Cadillac doesn't have much to apologize for...unless you think its American origins are something to be ashamed of, which I don't.

I get it dinosaurship! Good comparison because dinosaurs are outdated and extinct and GM is, as of recently, absolutely cutting edge, groundbreaking, and highly profitable, oh wait a second, that's a horrible comparison. I love it when the number one car manufacturer in the world falls to number two everybody thinks they are aweful. But when a euro manufacturer moves from 13th to 14th it's no biggie. You don't even care about it.

Oh, and GM wasn't invited to the party. They crashed it, walked over and took their glass of champagne, and then took their trophy wife home for the night. Then told her to get the $@&$ out the next morning.

I used to think American cars could never be designed and engineered well. Then the M-Class, X5, Odyssey and Avalon proved me wrong. American workers can build top-notch cars under the right management. Cadillac is experiencing a styling and engineering renaissance, but that's only because home-grown American carmakers perform at their best under the pressure of intense competition and when staring death in the face. As soon as they feel safe they go back to business as usual and the bean counters resume running the company. Long-term and product-centric planning has never been a trait of GM, Ford or Chrysler.

You're both completely out to lunch. The BLS is based on an outgoing GM platform - Epsilon is being discontinued and replaced with the vastly superior Epsilon II. It's also poorly styled, FWD only, and a cheap rebadge of the Saab 9-3. Oh, and let's not forget that it's a complete and utter sales failure, with fewer than 8000 sold total. GM is ALREADY developing Alpha to underpin the new Holden Commodore family, the new Camaro, and the next CTS. Alpha is a newer platform that will offer RWD and vastly better dynamics while offering space for a V8. They'll be able to build a coupe, sedan, crossover, and convertible on that platform. Oh, and it'll be a new, excellent platform, not a variant of a 12 year old Opel. And guess what? Cadillac can do all that and continue to build cars that match BMWs on the track for tens of thousands of dollars less, with interior quality that matches up to BMW too. They already do that. They don't need to sell a crappy 9-3 rebadge to do it. Seriously, do you even think about what you post?

The BLS is already discontinued, because it sold 8000 copies in three years. The ATS replaces it completely.

Ever since it got bigger in the last gen I'd say its in A/S6, 5 series & E class territory.