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RobERob
Impossible! How can you top perfection? To this day, there is not another super car that I rather have than an F-1. If McLaren decides to go through with this, I wouldn't venture too far from the F-1. Aesthetically speaking, that design did not have one bad angle to it. In fact, if I were McLaren, I'd just continue production where the original left off with the only changes coming by way of new light weight materials to make it lighter, faster, stronger.
Jul 9, 2010 5:35 pm
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Davidkhund
and 1 more thing makes me wonder. Everybody talks now about fuel economy and that the first way is to start making light cars. BUT! lets compare Mclaren F1 (1150kg) specs VS MP4 (1363kg), v12 vs v8, so when would be light cars when all this E-systems make cars havier?
Jul 9, 2010 9:43 am
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AllenX
As the world continues to modernize, new inventions are coming out. always trying to be better than what we already have.A new concept vehicle hitting the market soon, the Renault DeZir, is hoping to be a new auto sensation. This care is expected to go 100 miles on its electric battery before needing a recharge and can have a full charge from a normal outlet in as little as 8 hours. This care is a luxury electric sports car that is said to appeal to many people looking at purchasing an electric vehicle. The biggest road block is that this auto is costly enough to require an auto loan to buy and if Telsa Motors gets their more economical car on the market first they might be in for a world of hurt.
Jul 9, 2010 4:39 am
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McNamara68
The next Zonda will be the king of the heap imo, I think what they're doing these days is absolutely otherworldly.
Jul 8, 2010 8:23 pm
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BavarianMS
Yup, they should stick to how the original was done. Please use a high revving v12 over any turbo v8.
Jul 8, 2010 8:26 pm
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FOXHOUND
cant wait, but i hope this successor to the bad ass F1 pays homage to the original formula, a no frills hypercar for the streets, but at the same time i hope they dont get caught up in this ridiculous horsepower war.
Jul 8, 2010 6:40 pm
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MTC
They got quite a legend to live up to
Jul 8, 2010 5:51 pm
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DearS
What matters most is not number of cylinders, but overall tactility and responsiveness of the car imo. I don't see them having a V12 light enough to outperform others with extensive abilities like Ferrari. If they can get all the performance from a V8 and then some, going with a V12 is really just for showing off.
Jul 8, 2010 5:26 pm
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Davidkhund
mmm no. because Enzo Ferrari was saying that the character and the sound of V12 is incomparable. Also we know, that he was the man who started lets call it ''v12 mania''... V12 6.0 is very balanced combination, V8 6.0 needs more balancer shafts and so on. It is too complicated (we know that simple is genius). Look at 63 AMG engine it is hi tech, but i dont like its sound (i like high rpm revs and i will remind that Formula 1 bolides could rev till 28000rpm, can anyone say that F1 is not sporty or out-of-date?). V8 with 6L is abnormal and can purpose near 7500 rpm. All imo
Jul 8, 2010 7:16 pm
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Soorena
Wrong , No Super tuned V8 or Crazy stuff like W16 ,, Just a proper V12 and i agree with David about making lightweight V12.Making an F1 successor with a V8 is a reverse step.
Jul 8, 2010 5:22 pm
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DearS
Except for pagani, no one has a light weight v12 car. That is why I predict a Big V8 with similar power will be used. Non-turbo engines are more responsive imo, using forced induction I feel won't yield a true drivers car. Going at it with lap times only is not very meaningful. Mclaren comprised the MP4 and ended up with a light weight competitive car, maybe they will go turbo again, but even Ferrari and Lambo know its not just about power.
Jul 8, 2010 5:21 pm
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Pagani
If I recall, until now Pagani has had the old Mercedes V12 (same as the one used on W140 S Class, albeit modified to death), and for their C9 they will get the current twin turbo v12 (as in the current 65 AMG series). Neither is what I would call 'light.'
Jul 8, 2010 5:29 pm
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McNamara68
The current Zonda has a variation of the engine used in the uber limited SL73 AMG R127 not the V12 from the S600 W140. Also, I'm not sure where everyone is getting this idea that V12s are necessarily heavier than V8s becuase they have more cylinders. Do you guys even know how big these cylinders are or how much each one weighs? The components used in the current Zonda engine have certainly become lighter since the days of the Zonda and I'd wager it weighs less than the 6.3 V8 used in run of the mill AMGs or BMW's outgoing V10. A car's weight isn't so much determined by 4 more cylinders, it's done elsewhere; more cylinders does not necessarily equal more weight.
Jul 8, 2010 8:22 pm
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DearS
A 6.0 V8 sounds like the best engine possible imo. Much lighter than a V12 or V8 turbo means better handling in my book. No matter if the others are faster in a straight line. Naturally aspirated motors rock, and the lighter the better. Maybe they can get 650-700hp out of it, and make it lighter than the MP4, that would be revolutionary in my book.
Jul 8, 2010 4:36 pm
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Davidkhund
I suppose that today engineers do have enough technology skills to build V12 lightweight engine (with magnesium alloy, for ex.). And i think 6.0 V8 will be boosted by turbocharger (fuel economy and bla-bla). Mclaren will never beat its perfect hypercar with V12 6.0L of Paul Rosche. I mean by impressions, no by figures and timing
Jul 8, 2010 4:49 pm
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Pagani
This hypercar will not want anything to do with the GTB and Jota (Murcielago Replacement). Instead it will seek a piece of the next Enzo (F70) and Lamborghini Urus (the company's top model, above current Murcielago/equivalent). These, along with Zonda, Koenniggsegg, Shelby et al will form a crowded arena of hypercars.
Jul 8, 2010 2:55 pm
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Francois
I think McLaren is going to concentrate on making is as useable as 599 GTB and Murcielago are. If so the price should be on their level so it can't be much more higher than MP4-12C to compete with 599 or Murcielago. Or maybe they are targeting the hyper car class and Enzo successor and "New" Reventon with million price tag. We will see.
Jul 8, 2010 2:01 pm
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joshg_5
I disagree. This is their new flagship vehicle, and as per McLaren's legacy, will NOT be any type of touring car. This is going to be a pure driving machine. I would assume the price will be at least 70% more than the MP4..
Jul 8, 2010 2:49 pm
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tcairlines
I still love the F1, just as good looking today as it was oh too many years ago.
Jul 8, 2010 1:30 pm
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N20_Purge
Just give the MP4-12C a bodykit with a spoiler and roof scoop, then just call it a F1 successor. Simples!
Jul 8, 2010 1:19 pm
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wbizarre
it's also expected to have four wheels with rubber tires pressurized by air
Jul 8, 2010 1:13 pm
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joshg_5
What about rear-view mirrors? HAHA!
Jul 8, 2010 2:38 pm
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