2010 European Grand Prix - RESULTS [video]

I dunno how old you are, but I've been watching F1 since the early 80s. I seem to remember Ferrari winning in Canada in '98 after Schumi committed an infraction & served his penalty. I also remember that same year Silverstone, he cheated & passed Alex Wurz under safety car 12 laps from the end, got a stop & go penalty, but waited until the last lap of the race to serve it, taking the checkered flag on pit road before he even got to his pit box. I remember Alonso's teammate Piquet crashing on purpose @ Singapore, while Alonso went on to inherit 1st place & win the race. In that same race, Nico Rosberg served a 10 sec. stop & go penalty & finished 2nd. At Fuji in '08, Felipe Massa drove into the side of Lewis Hamilton, sending him to the back of the pack. Massa then went on to score a point after serving his penalty, Lewis scored none & the world championship fight moved on to the next round. Last year in Germany, mark Webber served a drive through penalty & went on to win the race.... so it's either you have a very selective memory, or you're like what, 8 years old?

i think jamaicandude has something against Ferrari. everything you said was correct, but by no means does that mean this should keep happening to Ferrari or any other team. if Stewards can start getting it right sooner rather than Twittering then F1 could be much fairer for everyone

I'm no Ferrari fan by any means, but I don't have anything against them personally. What I'm against is Ferrari, their drivers & their fans being ever so quick to condemn & hand out judgement when it's convenient to them, citing bias & favoritism, all the while ignoring all the times they've been embroiled in scandals & been outed for bending or breaking the rules. All of the incidents I've stated are fact, but I haven't heard Ferrari, Alonso or anyone affiliated with them cry outrage @ any of them unless Lewis Hamilton or McLaren was involved. In today's race, Alonso was the one who was on the radio clamoring for them to go talk to Charlie. Where was his moral sense of obligation before? It may seem like I'm targeting Ferrari, but my comment was in response to one of the same type of comments: here we have someone saying he's never seen anything like what transpired today before. Right off the top of my head I could name 5 instances. In my rebuttals on this page I've cited instances where Rosberg (driving a Williams @ the time), Alonso (Renault), Webber (Red Bull) as well as Massa & Schumi have come good after serving a penalty, to prove that it's not an isolated incident, & is quite common... everybody knows that when the safety car comes out it's usually a roll of the dice either way... but you've come out to brand me a Ferrari hater despite of these facts, & it only helps prove my point, IMO. But we're all entitled to our opinions.

jamaicandude knows hamilton's from neighboring grenada... racing is racing, some (few) like hamilton as some (most) like schumacher... how boring would life be if we couldnt post comments about how much of a CHEAT hamilton is (admittedly it's only on average once per race...) without expecting a heated reply... different topic: 5 second post race penalty??? where did that come from?? somehow it means you can SPEED behind an operational safety car on a and get 5 seconds, but overtaking after safety car (with clear - read 'safe' - track) gives a 20 second penalty??? (schumacher @ monaco) . jamaicandude: you must understand why the alonso fanclub are crying conspiracy when alonso had the most to gain from the set precedent of a 20 second penalty but the rules changed after the final buzzer sounded...

And here comes astroturf777 again with his ridiculous, baseless "neighboring" Grenada comments all the while displaying his very obvious anti-British bias... not because your opinions seem based on geography more than fact means everyone else's are. You're entitled to your (albeit ridiculous) opinion on that, but I'll keep sticking to posting like I always do, with plenty of facts to back up my arguments. Of course you Alonso & Ferrari sympathizers are entitled to cry & moan about conspiracy theories, & everyone else is entitled to point out that you guys never say anything when the shoe is on the other foot, & that's why usually you're encouraged to be quiet & get over it.

/me: not an alonso fan. /me: not anti-british or anti-anything - australian of british descent, working fulltime in voluntary aid in pacific. /me: got great friends in grenada. /me: loving worldcarfans, spats with jamaicandude and f1 season 2010. /me loves using CHEAT and hamilton in same sentence... keeps it interesting.

The replay made it look like he hesitated, then went for it. But it is clear that he didn't pass the Safety Car until after the SC line. Thus, he broke the rule. But he did serve his penalty, so what else can he do? Alonso needs to suck it up, unfortunately for him.

i'm sure Clarkson had a speech prepared in case England won in football and F1 :)

Now that's how sounds a true fanboy! Today's race wasn't "racing" at all. There were some good moments, but mostly is was just a deception with decisions made by stuards. Alonso did very well by not passing the pace car, because the RULES says so, something like Hamilton or Schumacher (in other cases) seem to not obey. You see, it's not the first time Hamilton breakes rules and then stuards decide to ban this action for the future. I'm sorry Speedoholic, but I think your comment is pathetic.

I agree Speedoholic. Hamilton's move (though not deliberate, IMO) was illegal & he got penalized. That he put in quick laps, managed to pull out a gap & make the most of the situation is beside the point: he served his penalty. Alonso won under safety car in Singapore because his teammate crashed on purpose. Where was his conscience & sense of moral obligation then? In that same race, Rosberg served a 10 sec. stop & go & managed to finish 2nd. In Germany last year, Webber served a drive through & went on to win. In Japan '08, Massa hit Lewis Hamilton into a spin sending him to the back of the pack. Massa served his penalty & went on to score points & keep his title hopes alive. It happens. Alonso should've focused on his own damn race instead of holding silly conversations on the radio ("Where is Hamilton?"). What LH did had no immediate impact on the job he had to do, which was get past Buemi. Kobayashi managed to show them both how it was done (albeit on fresh rubber) while Alonso was busy chucking his toys out of the pram. Silly crybaby.

i agree pathetic comment, how was it gr8 racing seeing everyone make massive gains UNDER PACE CAR and see 2 Ferrari's who where fast and qualified well get demoted 10 positions. yeah i hope u get to see heaps more safety car decisions. and as far as Alonso's Singapore thing goes and bringing up shit from the last 10 years.. wow

See what I mean? So many of you Alonso & Ferrari fans refuse to acknowledge anything wrong they've done in the past but are quick to join them in condemnation of anyone else who runs afoul of the rulebook. By the rules, LH's infraction was worth a drive through penalty. His penalty was served. Where he came out after that is beside the point. What's wrong with me bringing up Singapore & things that happened 10 years ago if it proves my point? They're acting like it's a blatant manipulation of the result... Alonso has said as much... where was his conscience before? I never heard him complain about Massa running LH off track & picking up points. He never condemned the actions of Flav. Pat & Nelsinho as wrong. He never complained about Rosberg keeping 2nd place in Singapore. He never complaind about Webber going on to win in Germany last year. Since you have a problem with old news, how about China this year? Alonso jumped the start, managed to pull out a bit of a gap, serve his penalty, gain perfect track position to pit again to change tires when the anticipated rain didn't come & ended up only losing one place. The only thing different in this instance is that Lewis Hamilton finished ahead of him in a McLaren while he was left floundering, stuck behind a Torro Rosso driven by a rookie, while another rookie in a Sauber on fresh tires overtook them both. he has a problem with LH: in Melbourne this year he was informed by his engineer that Hamilton was catching him. He gruffly retorted for all the world to hear "I don't care"... is that any kind of response to give the guy who's watching your back? Just like he was all over the radio today asking about LH instead of focusing on driving his own race. Everything (with the exception of my own subjective opinions)I've said is a fact, is on point with the discussion & therefore valid to the argument, in my opinion. You obviously disagree, & that's ok and all, but it doesn't make my argument invalid or irrelevant.

no not "see what i mean".. he has made mistakes and did stupid things as have most of them. you seem seriously pained by Alonso. most F1 drivers push the boundaries Schumi has done it LH is doing it, Alonso also is currently doing it. im merely choosing not to reflect on the history of F1 and looking at this situation. but hey its not LH's fault, its not Alonso's fault. this was opportunistic move by LH that paid off and the Ferrari's were both very very unlucky. that is all, you can clearly understand why they are so unhappy. i mean you get a competitive package, you qualify well, you start well, someone crashes and you get shifted from 3rd to 15th or something like that for no other reason but where the pace car appeared. then the guy who was right in front of you gets to take his penalty 20 mins later, its not LH's fault once again i reittirate. Alonso and Ferrari are blaming LH stupidly as i think Lewis had a brain explosion and would have reacted the same had there been a ferrari on his ass or not. and just so you know. im not an Alonso fanboy, i back Vettel,Alonso and Hamilton. because they are aggressive and push the limits and make this entertaining.

@Hardboy997 lewis hamilton broke the rules - intentially or otherwise and he was punished and he served the drive through penalty,, i dont see why anyone should whinge about it

fantastic post Astroturf777 agree 100%. it wouldnt be that hard to implement

agree with several things: alonso has underwhelmed and failed to extract 100% except maybe in canada. unfortunately he was on last corner when schumacher was upside down. agree that hamilton is a brilliant driver... hey, this is f1, the best part is controversy and nemeses... hakkinen was brilliant but i didnt like him because he wasnt schumacher, same for hill, villeneuve (did anyone like him?), and even alonso. for the first time in my history of watching f1 i have NO FAVORITE. great to see schumacher's name in f1 again - and that after terrible strategy of 3 pitstops and a redlight in pitlane he was only 4.4 seconds behind rosberg (who stopped once) great to see kubica (who i consider one of the most talented and balanced drivers on track) doing well driving above and beyond the car's capabilities. love the webber (i'm aussie) and vettel battle, showing that sometimes consistency is better than raw tallent (see button/hamilton points too) the only issue is inconsistency and the rule tweaks and backflips in-season. very unprofessional fia chasing their tale every race, but hey, we're all still watching.