Porsche Considering Turbocharged Three-cylinder Engine for Boxster

 Porsche Considering Turbocharged Three-cylinder Engine for Boxster
Porsche Boxster S

Smaller engine will help Porsche meet 2012 emissions requirements

A three-cylinder Porsche?

According to an interview with a Porsche official published in Autocar, Porsche is looking for ways to decrease its CO2 footprint and is considering a turbocharged three-cylinder for its next generation Boxster model.

The head of the Boxster model line, Hans-Jurgen Wohler, told Autocar that the next Boxster model may come with a three-cylinder turbo producing somewhere between 180 and 200 hp. That would take the models CO2 emissions down to about 180 g/km.

Wohler said that Porsche is looking for ways to reduce emissions, given VW's acquisition of the luxury sports car maker last year. "We are under a great deal of pressure from the EU law makers to reduce emissions, but we don't know yet how much we'll have to come down by," he added.

It is not known how EU rules for reducing emission will apply to Porsche now that it is part of VW Group. Current rules state that an automaker with a volume less than 300,000 units per year (which Porsche meets) need only reduce its fleet emissions by 25 percent by 2012 over 2006 levels. For larger automakers, stricter rules are in place and those will have to reduces their fleet emissions to 120 g/km by 2012.

But Wohler admitted that a low-emissions Boxster wouldn't be enough to meet requirements on its own. Boxster volumes are about 15,000 units per year - a small seller even for a boutique marque like Porsche.

Source: autocar

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 termigni termigni
oh no. please don't make the same mistake you made back in 1995(?) when you made the same face for 911 and Boxter.
January 4, 2010 8:18 pm
 JorgeLovesAudiA3TDI JorgeLovesAudiA3TDI
A three-cylinder Porsche... ahhaahahahah! Ridiculous! See, that is what separates a Premium brand (like Audi) from a Beetle manufacturer...
January 4, 2010 8:42 pm
 devperson devperson
Implying that Porsche is not a premium brand just makes you look like idiot with no car knowledge. You realize that right? Grow up.
January 4, 2010 8:49 pm
 glienart glienart
Audi and Porsche belong to VW, so I don't understand what your talking about!
January 4, 2010 9:23 pm
 nathandavid88 nathandavid88
You do know that Audi is actually OWNED by the beetle maker, right?
January 5, 2010 3:16 am
 carbonfibreguy carbonfibreguy
Not only are (audi)they owned by VW, Audi isn't the best either. Stop being such a fanboy, especially when you don't have facts to back it up.
January 5, 2010 3:51 am
 carcrazy1234 carcrazy1234
wow... he just looked like a complete idiot there lol. i just laughed so hard right now
January 5, 2010 5:02 am
 sub39h sub39h
one could argue the merits of the R8 over the 911, but to say that Porsche is not a premium car maker is somewhat dimwitted. but i think this 3 cyl engine idea is just as dimwitted. 4 pot turbo I can understand. 3 cylinders? those should be reserved for cars the size of the iQ or Aygo
January 5, 2010 5:37 am
 Michael Michael
@Jorge, I can see that you love Audi A3 TDI. For your information: Audi A3 TDI is nothing else but a VW Golf TDI. What is different between Golf TDI and A3 TDI? Basically, the design and the badge. And as somebody said above, Audi is owned by VW. And, yes, it is a premium brand, but Porsche is more than that.
January 5, 2010 7:11 am
 sub39h sub39h
@Michael i take exception to that statement. i'm also an A3 owner, and i'd like to remind you that the A3 was released over a year before the Mk 5 Golf. therefore i would argue that the Golf is a dressed down A3 rather than the other way around. now that the A3 has special features like the magnetorheological damping system, i no longer feel the two can be truly compared. the Mk 6 Golf is a beautiful machine and i am contemplating replacing the A3 with a Golf GTI, but the A3 really is a small prestige car, whereas the same cannot necessarily be said about the Golf.
January 5, 2010 7:18 pm
 Michael Michael
@sub39h: Sorry, but my English is sometimes poor. Maybe I should have said the other way around, i.e. Golf TDI is nothing else but a (dressed down) Audi A3 TDI: same platform, same engines, same gearboxes (even dual clutch ones: DSG/S-tronic). And I fully agree that A3 is a small prestige car (unlike the Golf), but this come with a price. P.S.: The Adaptive Chassis Control, with variable suspension settings (Sport, Comfort and Normal) is available for Golf too.
January 6, 2010 10:58 am
 ivanadrive ivanadrive
Why not, a three cylinder sounds sportier than a 4 cylinder. But will it still be a boxer engine.
January 4, 2010 9:05 pm
 Captain Scarlett Captain Scarlett
I like the sound from a 3 cylinder, but 180-200 bhp in a porsche just sounds wrong. there's no 4 cylinder that floats my boat, none.
January 4, 2010 10:21 pm
 scratchy996 scratchy996
the women that buy the Boxster or the Cayenne don't care about 0-60 times. they only drive them for the badge. i bet they don't even notice if the car has 200 or 500 hp.
January 5, 2010 12:59 am
 DrPlacebo DrPlacebo
@scratchy: Nail, meet head.
January 5, 2010 3:33 am
 porschecarreragtmay6 porschecarreragtmay6
Trust me, if Porsche makes a 3 cylinder, it will not be slow. A 3 cylinder will lighten the car. Though not having as much power, it will be lighter. Much lighter. Trust me, Porsche will find away to make this VERY sporty.
January 4, 2010 9:58 pm
 autoficianado autoficianado
I am sure you are right about Porsche's technical ability...but a 3 cylinder Porsche sounds ridiculous. Make all Porsches diesels or diesel hybrids or twin turbo a 4 cylinder 1.5 liter but I don't want to pay Porsche money for a 3 cylinder, it's bad enough we will be seeing more VW in all Porsches as it is...
January 4, 2010 10:23 pm
 scratchy996 scratchy996
i say they should make a 1 cylinder Boxster with 1hp and 1 million Euros price tag. they don't have to sell it, no one is forced to buy it, they only need to make one so they have a model with low CO2 emissions in their fleet.
January 5, 2010 12:56 am
 radmeister radmeister
If they made only 1 i'm sure somebody would buy it.
January 5, 2010 3:52 am
 BlackSeries BlackSeries
Imagine how well it would handle! An engine that size would allow the engineers to do almost anything they wanted with the balance and handling. It could be a classic in the making. We may look back on this car and see the beginnings of a new era for lighter, sharper, more efficient sports cars. Porsche won't mess this up, I'm sure.
January 5, 2010 1:02 am
 tootall tootall
I agree with you Autoficianado. They should look into producing a diesel 4cyl engine, before thinking about making a 3cyl. It just dose not make sense, for a company like Porsche. They are better off making tricycles, if they go down the road of a 3cyl engine.
January 5, 2010 3:42 am
 DrPlacebo DrPlacebo
this could be cool as hell! imagine a spiritual successor to the 914! it won't get too much cheaper, but turbo = cheap power. If the design comes from VW that would mean relatively cheap upgrades and you still have the fit and finish of the base boxster. I can see stripped down models becoming trackday specials. PS: The 3 cylinder would put the vehicle in a different emissions/taxation bracket though I'm not sure the turbo wouldn't negate that.
January 5, 2010 3:49 am
 radmeister radmeister
Hmm i don't know how much of a difference # of cylinders has on emissions. Does a 3 Cylinder 1.5L pollute less than a 4 cylinder 1.5L? I doubt it, personally i think they should make a 2L 4 Cylinder boxer engine with a turbo, also it should be air cooled and come with no A/C. Just removing the A/C compressor and water pump would net a hefty % gas savings/emission especially if u want the same power ie. 300hp with A/C and water cooling is more realistically like 330hp, remove those and run the engine at the same 300hp and u reduce your input and output by 10%.
January 5, 2010 3:57 am
 DrPlacebo DrPlacebo
Sounds more like the spyder. I don't see why you think the 3 cyl won't seal the deal. Less displacement and control of the fuel consumption with the flexibility of the turbo would balance emissions and performance. The tricky part will be balancing brand equity with value for a model with so much less power. I seriously doubt it would even come to the US, but the tuning potential and weight advantage have to be appreciated. The Cayenne that made them so much money is really slapping them in the face now especially that they have something like 5 variants of it. It's only now that I understand Porsche's stance on electric vehicle development.
January 5, 2010 4:20 am
 M! M!
"Wohler said that Porsche is looking for ways to reduce emissions" certainly if porsche is going to do a 3 cylinder turbo for the boxster it would be more than pretty good. however, i think the Aston Martin Cygnet approach in emission management is a smart idea. at least they did not have to dilute the V8 Vantage into a H3T Vantage ;)
January 5, 2010 7:23 am
 Targa_Florio Targa_Florio
Can't they simply make a flat-4 like the 356? Furthermore, the setup make easy for biturbo applications (one on each bank of 2 cylinders), and this would definitely differentiate the Boxster/Cayman from the 911.
January 5, 2010 7:46 am
 car-o-bar car-o-bar
Engineering can do great things. Just a few years ago it was hard to imagine 3L V6 engines churning out 300 HP, but today it is possible. One downside is the reduced engine life, high RPM operations.
January 5, 2010 4:16 pm
 HEMI426 HEMI426
Come on porsche a boxster isn't made for a 3 cylinder. And not for a 4 banger either. Maybe a car like a toyota mr2 would do with a 3 cylinder.
January 5, 2010 6:12 pm
 vilivo vilivo
FINALLY! A light Boxster to handle as good as an Exige. Nice idea, to improve handling, just add lightness...
January 5, 2010 6:39 pm
 joelynn joelynn
electric engines like in the Tesla provide very fast acceleration- and provide Zero emissions- that would be sure to bump their average down. so why not an electric superlight sub-Boxster to compete with the Tesla?
January 6, 2010 11:54 am
 GTurbo GTurbo
Three cylinders may be smart territory, but change is what Porsche needs now. However, whether the idea will turbo off the line remains to be seen though! Blame it on the Green Brigade; smaller engines, smaller emissions.
January 6, 2010 2:16 pm
 kogtr kogtr
I have always had great respect for Porsche, but after I heard that they were adding a number of cars to their fleet to increase sales I was so disappointed because that meant there was no significance of a Porsche anymore, and that made me lose a little bit of faith in them. Now this absurd thing?! This is just madness and this is the type of thing that will make me lose complete faith in Porsche, and eventually people would stop seeing them as supercar makers, but more like eco car mentalists, and they would end up being a company like Toyota adding more cheap elecrtic cars to their line. What's next a 2.0 Liter 4 cylinder 911 GT3 RS?
January 9, 2010 6:31 pm
 DrPlacebo DrPlacebo
I used to think like you. I was irate when they made the cayenne, but if it wasn't for that vehicle they wouldn't have had the revenue to produce the carrera gt or go back into motorsport with factory teams. Don't be nearsighted. A business is a business. As an enthusiast you have to allow the latitude for them to expand so they can continue to produce the dream machines you admire them for.
January 18, 2010 2:22 am
 fusion01 fusion01
I am in admiration of trying to achieve lower emissions, and fuel economy - I believe it's a highly important move forwards for all motor car manufacturers, but just can't get over the fact that this would have less power than my MK5 Golf GTI (ok, it'll surely be a tad lighter but still). Surely cheapening the brand? You have to set a (realistic?) limit, and I'd reckon 250HP is sensible (approx 220g/km)?
January 16, 2010 2:37 pm