Mercedes AMG Dropping 6.2-liter V8 for Bi-Turbo 5.5-Liter V8 - report

 Mercedes AMG Dropping 6.2-liter V8 for Bi-Turbo 5.5-Liter V8 - report
Mercedes-Benz AMG 6.3-litre V8 engine bench testing

 

Mercedes-Benz is plotting to replace the naturally aspirated 6.3-liter (6208cc) AMG V8 with a twin-turbo 5.5-liter V8 engine by 2011.  The move was confirmed in an Inside Line interview with Daimler R&D board member Dr. Thomas Weber.

Weber says the new engine could appear on cars in the fourth quarter of 2010 following an official reveal at September's Paris Motor Show.  The currently-used V8 puts out between 450- and 520-horsepower, producing up to 440 ft-lb of torque for some models, and around 465 ft-lb for others.  Fuel economy is rated around 12 mpg city, 16-19mpg highway.

With the new engine, Mercedes could be looking to up these economy figures, while reducing emissions.  Simultaneously, the German automaker will not be looking to sacrifice performance, as that could damage AMG sales.

Aside from confirming the new engine, Dr. Weber also says that every customer purchasing a 2011 Mercedes-Benz unit with a V8 will get a turbocharged variant.

 

Source: insideline.com

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 corey8 corey8
wonder why AMG doesn't use a variant of their 4.0 litre DTM engine. Obviously it wouldn't produce as much horsepower but could probably compete with the M3's 4L engine, especially since AMG also seems to be focusing a lot more attention on lighter weights and handling
December 15, 2009 9:27 pm
 scratchy996 scratchy996
the DTM engine, like the F1 engine is not meant for road use.
December 16, 2009 2:28 pm
 otakki otakki
Love the sound of this engine, especially in the C63.
December 15, 2009 10:00 pm
 McNamara68 McNamara68
haha you can download it on car & driver's website in mp3 form, i have it as my ringtone, the noise is simply brilliant
December 15, 2009 11:26 pm
 motorjedi motorjedi
Agreed. I will miss this engine with all my heart. Even to hear one go by in the street is a beautiful thing. Is it just me or did it have an unnaturally short life? I mean, i think it debuted on the new-gen S-class and CL-class in 2006-07 and then filtered down to the C, E, CLS, CLK, SL, ML etc. So it's only 3 years old! That said, I knew it was going to be an emissions/economy nightmare the moment I heard about it (not that I cared) so I knew it would be given the axe soon enough. To quote John Travolta from face-off (sort of) 'I hate to see it go, but love to hear it leave...'
December 15, 2009 10:39 pm
 trekkerbin trekkerbin
Agree with the "face-off" quote
December 15, 2009 11:22 pm
 Xanavi23 Xanavi23
Face-Off quote, agreed, +1
December 16, 2009 1:31 pm
 trekkerbin trekkerbin
Well, it's good and bad news, this engine just the the engine of the year, but I guess fuel economy is way more impportant in these days. Carbon footprint is everything we have to deal with nowadays.
December 15, 2009 11:21 pm
 benz_man benz_man
Saw this coming a mile back. Truly sad. Everyone should mark this as the beginning of the end of the glory years for power and performance. Now its all about efficiency and safety. However, I cant wait to drive the new turbo V8s with all that tq!
December 15, 2009 11:33 pm
 dbehmoaras dbehmoaras
Indeed it is a shame. Where there were big V8s will now small V8s, where there were small V8s be 6s, 10s now 8s, and 12s will be gone altogether. Allow me to be the first to say this, because I haven't heard (read) anyone say this yet: I don't care how fuel efficient my Ferrari** is as long as it's still a Ferrari**. **: Ferrari or any other great make. Quite frankly, I don't care what anyone says, a high-end car make should never have green in mind, at all (unless of course it's British racing green), and no form of government should ever have the right to enforce it. I don't care how many of you disagree, or how wrong I may be (even though I'm not, and never will be)...I won't change my opinion.
December 16, 2009 12:11 am
 2010S5 2010S5
Downsizing and forced induction; that's what every car manufacturer seems to be going for these days. Hopefully this is the right move for Mercedes. A 5.5L is no small engine.
December 15, 2009 11:35 pm
 nederina nederina
We're witnessing the death of naturally aspirated large engines boys!
December 16, 2009 12:03 am
 Dolomight 74-86 Dolomight 74-86
It was a long time coming. I'm sorry but if you can make 300hp with 2 liters of displacement through turbocharging why not use that on a 5.5 liter v8? It sucks but this is the wave of the future and large displacement engines aren't part of it. It sad to say this but the same thing that happened to the large displacement carburated muscle cars is at work here.
December 16, 2009 2:15 am
 dbehmoaras dbehmoaras
I wish that instead of resorting to forced-induction they could improve on naturally-aspirated. Who knows, maybe some day they will be back. Maybe I'm just in denial, but are the elite manufacturers really going to stop making v10s and v12s? The rich don't really care about global warming as long as they tell the press that they have a Prius in their garage (with 50 miles on it, but they leave that part out), and so they will keep buying, and the makes will keep selling. Then again, the rich don't care if it's a TTV8 or a V12 as long as it has 600bhp.
December 16, 2009 4:40 am
 McNamara68 McNamara68
those old school 450SEL 6.9s seem like a far cry now don't they haha
December 16, 2009 7:10 am
 JoshBenz JoshBenz
Iam sad that the 6.3 will end. I thought they would discontinue with a 6.9
December 16, 2009 2:26 am
 Lennox.... Lennox....
dam global warming!
December 16, 2009 3:06 am
 Dolomight 74-86 Dolomight 74-86
Hell while were at it damn peak oil theory, damn smog, damn deforestation, erosion, the nigerian civil war and me not having enough money to pay for gas. If all these things dissapeared we could all keep our 7.3 liter AMG\Pagani engines and live like nobility.
December 16, 2009 2:44 pm
 autoficianado autoficianado
it was inevitable...hail to the 6.3 AMG...I think AMG must be planning on using a smaller turbo charged V6 engine in addition as the 5.5. is not that small a motor...and how long do the V12s survive?
December 16, 2009 4:56 am
 schnitzerx schnitzerx
M5s going turbo, 63s going turbo.... I blame Audi for this... #### ### Audi....
December 16, 2009 6:39 am
 chris25 chris25
Well, there are still tuners out there who can tune this engine from 5.5L V8 to 6L V8. So MB, its of no use to go lower.
December 16, 2009 7:30 am
 M! M!
nice. ferrari is going back to force induction as well. ;)
December 16, 2009 7:39 am
 popilirol popilirol
Such a failure this company is. It never knows which engine to fit on its models lol.
December 16, 2009 9:05 am
 rogers rogers
You're such a c*ck, troll!
December 16, 2009 10:59 am
 Xanavi23 Xanavi23
Popi...you're not very bright.
December 16, 2009 1:33 pm
 bosaleh74 bosaleh74
???? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? .. ???????? ????? ??? ???????? ??????? I feel sad for the loss of this mighty engine .. Great competition between the German manufacturers
December 16, 2009 10:16 am
 hossam004 hossam004
oh god...bmw fanboy...just shut up
December 16, 2009 10:59 am
 diadora001 diadora001
@ McNamara68... how did you get the ringtone of the C63? or how can you get any car engine ringtones? ...anyone?
December 16, 2009 11:12 am
 McNamara68 McNamara68
just download the mp3 here: http://blog.caranddriver.com/name-that-exhaust-note-episode-14/ and then just use an online ringtone program to cut it up into a proper ringtone. just google ringtone maker or something like that to find a program, i haven't done it in a while but these sites are everywhere. good luck.
December 16, 2009 7:10 pm
 tom43 tom43
So we will see a hard competition between the next M5 with V8-TT, the "E55 AMG" with V8-TT, the Panamera eith V8-TT and the next (R)S6 with V8-TT. Sounds a little bit boring...
December 16, 2009 12:21 pm
 sideskraper sideskraper
5.5L bi turbo's have been common in the MB range for some at least 5 years. When the old AMG 55 engine disappeared, people cried. Now when they are bringing back a forced induction 5.5L, people are crying. There are two real questions here: Will this be 113/155 based or 273 based? And..... How insane will this engine be?
December 16, 2009 12:38 pm
 Gf2k2 Gf2k2
the new BiTurbo V8 is not based on the M273 nore on the M113/M155 or the M156. It's a complete new engine generation and will be based on the M278.
December 17, 2009 11:46 am
 andre_a_s andre_a_s
Hope they change the gearbox to a 6 or 7 speed too
December 16, 2009 12:59 pm
 Gf2k2 Gf2k2
as far as I know the only engine that hasn't got the NAG 7 speed gearbox is the M275 V12. The next AMG models will be equipped with the successor of this 7 speed gearbox
December 17, 2009 11:53 am
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