Porsche Panamera Cabriolet Rumours Surface

usually cutting the roof off a car makes it uglier. if that's gonna be the case and considering the current level of ugliness the panamera has managed to achieve, should we all pluck our eyes out now?

The Panamera will look much better in two door form, and smooth in cabriolet form. Rather than the big butt on the 911 cabriolet. Go look at the 924, 944, 928, 968, etc. Front engined GT porsches actually look stylish.

cars like the C2S also compare with cars like the Jag XKR, which definitely does count as a GT car and doesn't have a pair of useable back seats either.

the CLK isn't close to the 911 in terms of size, price, stature or ability so i don't know how you've made that comparison. would you compare a 3 Series to a 911? because that's what you've essentially done.

i've seen 911s being used as cross country vehicles, and many of them are used to go to and from work on a daily basis. those are things that are generally done by GT cars.

I tried out a 911 but it didn't have enough usable space. I couldnt fit in a small suitcase and overnight bag into it. I can easily fit them in my XK. You can't do much touring if you can't bring a couple of changes of clothes for yourself and a passenger.

The 911 is not a GT car and Porsche agrees.

I agree with you that the 911 isn't a GT car in it's strictest definition, but you can't argue that it often competes against cars like the XK and 5 Series, or at the other end of the spectrum the Merc CL, Bentley GT, Maserati GranTurismo.

Your argument is that the 911 doesn't have much space. well that argument in itself is flawed. from personal experience (although to be fair i've never personally owned one) the 911 has enough space for it's back seats to be used as luggage space. therefore i would argue that it's at least as practical as an XK. ergo, if you don't need the back seat space (which you clearly don't if you bought an XK), it has ample luggage space and you COULD use it as a GT car for yourself and a passenger.

in my mind, a GT car is the kind of car you can drive cross country, or cross continent if you prefer, and arrive at the other end feeling fresh. it should, as you rightly point out, have space for yourself, a passenger and luggage. the 911 fits that criteria. no doubt it's an iconic sports car, but in recent years it's fitted the GT bill just as adequately.

there are obviously other cars that can do the job (i.e. i'd prefer an S-Class to a CL for that particular journey and in the same vein your dad may prefer the Land Cruiser or yourself the Fiat) but to say that other cars do the job as well is a moot point. chavs do doughnuts it old Saxos, but that doesn't make them sports cars, does it :p.

I'll take the CL over the Panamera too. The CL is the ultimate GT, imo; just put down all the windows with that pillarless design and go. Arguably top 5 best looking cars in production today.

We want a coupe 2+2!!!