F1 world lashes out at crash-gate leniency
Add a Comment
Login
Comments (12)
If the team principals choose to hide what they are doing from the parent company, then the penalty is just in my eyes.
September 22, 2009 2:40 pm
The media are trying to stir @*'! again! Really,really annoying! Briatore,Symonds and Piquets are the ones to blame! The punishment definately fits the crime for the first two,shame Piquet got immunity I say! As for punishing the rest of the team and the company,NO WAY!!!
September 22, 2009 3:25 pm
The media are not stirring anything they are just saying what clearly needs to be said. BAR never recovered from their punishment in '05. McLaren was fined $100 million dollars for spy-gate, a punishment unprecedented in all sport. That's simply a massive sum of money to lose. And Renault, who not only cheated but endangered the lives of racers and fans, have gotten off with a mere slap on the wrist. There is no fairness or justice in that.
However, I would have meted out the same punishment. This is no time to lose an important team because of the idiocy of one incompetent racer, one competent engineer and one unrepentant figurehead. The damage has already been done to F1. Either way it cannot, should not go unsaid that given Renault's own spy-gate affair and now Singapore scandal, McLaren have every right to feel very hard done by.
September 22, 2009 3:57 pm
All in all a very effed up (or interesting) season. One for the history books.
September 22, 2009 5:53 pm
I confused about something. Why are they suspending Renault. sure they supply the engine and anem but it's the owner who should be suspened and pay the fine not the manufacturer.
Here in the States, the car owner takes responsibility not the manufacturer.
September 22, 2009 6:30 pm
didn't ferrari use to do this all the time with rubens barichello... they always told rubens to slow down so that schumacher could overtake him and win... its the same renault did, but ferrari didn't crash to accomplish it
September 22, 2009 7:00 pm
dude, telling someone to slow down and telling someone to go ahead and crash a racing car are two completely different things. think before you comment.
September 22, 2009 8:26 pm
this will continue for a while. the real issue here is how responsible a company are for the actions of their employees. according to the fia, not at all. will a dangerous precedent be set?
the other issue is parity - why is one team charged 100 million, the next nothing?? clearly renault know they have the fia by the balls - who wants a four engine field? (assuming toyota hang around) i think that at least renault should have been stripped of all points for last season. and as a ferrari fan i wish they would remove the singapore results from all classifications... not really but wouldn't massa (and all non brits) be happy...
on another note... why are renault engines rock solid in works car but failing for BRB? alonso and 'cant remember his name' are on their 6th engine, vettel on his 8th, webber on 7th...
September 22, 2009 11:41 pm
The dif is from Flaviore. He's the man. Hahaha. After 2 years, he'll be back if he wants. hehe
September 23, 2009 12:42 am
By far the most shocking part of this scandal is the way that Alonso seems to have escaped completely scot free. In a sport where fractions of a second can mean thie difference between pole position and 10th on the grid, the charmless Alonso found himself at one stage 88 seconds behind the leader within the first 12 laps of the race. There is absolutely no way on earth that he would not have questioned this strategy with HIS MANAGER Briastore or been aware of, or even part of this diabolical breech of sporting etiquette.
After the witch hunt carried out against McLaren last season, the penalties handed down to Renault and Alonso make a complete mockery the sport. F1 is in complete meltdown and rulings like this will only drive TV viewers away. I have been a fan of the sport my entire life yet even I am now questioning whether I need such a corrupt and crooked spectacle in my life any more.
September 23, 2009 7:08 am
agree - i part... i remember the mid 90's espionage, the under handed tricks to leech info from teams - entirely pointless under current rules constricting development and ingenuity (see latest 'if your engine is too much faster than rest you will need to slow it down' suggestion from fia). now even pitwall conversations are monitored and recorded. remember when coulthard 'brake tested' in spa in about 1998-9 with schumacher trying to lap him?? this intentional accident cost schumes a world championship (dont worry, he has enough to have forgotten by now) and there was no clear evidence to have any fine/reprimand (or even a -gasp-suspended sentence!).
the fact that 12 months later they can pull up data to convict based on new evidence should discourage cheating. as long as fia have consistency in their handling of teams... the 'golden teams' know their value to the sport and can shift their weight to get what they need.
the other point is corruption - especially where there are conflict of interests present...
should bernie ecclestone OWN the tracks he sends his races to?
should bernie ecclestone run the management for the tracks he sends his races to?
should bernie ecclestone be half owner of a football team with the currently uemployed flavio briatore?
should a team owner be a driver manager?
why doesnt the fia move to block conflicts of interest within the sport? there are very few fingers in the rather large f1 pie.
it's a bit like inbreeding, if you're your own uncle and your sister is both your niece and your mother you know your family is a bit sick.
The whole singapore affair never would have happened without flavio being both team boss and career manager, he wouldnt have felt so invincible if he weren't partners with bernie.
September 23, 2009 9:59 am
Without doubt the corruption and culture of greed comes from the top. How could Bernie be given the commercial rights to F1 for A HUNDRED YEARS? For him then to sell those rights to the highest bidder stinks. It's rotten to the core, no doubt about that.
The first steps to getting the sport back, our sport back, is to get rid of those 2 corrupt old men from the top of the sport. Only then do we have any chance of starting to rebuild the shattered reputation of F1
September 23, 2009 10:46 am









