Next generation Dodge Viper rumoured to receive Ferrari V10

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Viper fans are still waiting for a Ferrari, any Ferrari (well, not the FXX of course), to topple the Viper ACRs Nurburgring lap time. Not saying that it can't be done, just that it hasn't happened yet.

And hasn't the Viper earned a reputation on the international racing scene as a car capable of beating Ferrari? I pretty sure the answer is yes.

With that said, yes, if I had the money I would certainly purchase a Ferrari...and a Viper.

about that question , of course most people would buy a Ferrari if money was no option. in the real world a car like the 599 or California is much better than a track car like the ACR.

only little problem could be 80'000$ price tag for that engine... :D

Ferrari no doubt COULD build a large displacement, high torque, low-revving engine to satisfy American tastes, but it just isn't their style.

Alternative: How 'bout a V10 version of the current Hemi, complete with Chryslers' Multi-Displacement System (MDS) and variable valve timing.

No I'm not kidding. Using race proven/inspired mechanical parts from race engines and adapting them for street use is a proven recipe for success. One of the reasons manufacturers get involved in racing to begin with is so that lessons learned in the heat of competition can be applied to their street cars which operate in a far less demanding environment.

Honda does it, Mercedes does it, Ferrari does it, Porsche does it. All of the truly great manufacturers do it.

Why not Dodge?

Nascar engines are old fashioned, archaic, pushrod, cast iron, carbureted dinosaurs that are about as relevant to today's sports cars as silly putty. Great as they might be on the race track they don't have the performance, economy, emissions, affordability or durability required for a road car.

When was the Carrera GT engine used in racing? It wasn't. Really it could come down to simple marketing rhetoric.

The 599 engine is developed from the Enzo engine. A road car. the MC12 engine is developed from the Enzo engine too. The F430 GT2 was developed from the engine in the standard F430 engine. All of which can trace their "heritage" to formula two engines of the 60's. BUT they can hardly be argued as race car engines thrown into road cars. And I think you will find that the 911 GT3 engine tracks back to road cars past the 1998 GT1 (not disputing the heritage, it just doesn't seem right to me)

Road car engines/blocks/architecture developed into racing engines is nothing new. In fact they are in the majority. Show me where I buy a Honda or Mercedes or Ferrari or Porsche with a race car engine. Real racing engines cost tens of times the cost of road engines, and ignoring economy, emissions, drivability, etc, they have to last a dozen or so races between rebuilds not hundreds of thousands of kilometers.

Why does chevy bother with developing the LS series when they can just sling in a V8 from NASCAR. Why does Holden use LS engines when they can get similarly archaic engines from V8 supercars? Why can't I buy an Audi with the engine from a R10 or R15?

I never said or even implied that engines are, have been, nor should they ever be plucked straight out of the race car and placed in an old womans' grocery getter. That my fantasy "NASCAR V10" would have to be detuned, civilized, cleaned up, i.e. fuel injected, and in general made to be more efficient, is so obvious that I didn't feel it was even worth mentioning.

In the past the only way to tell the difference between a connecting rod that failed at 5,000 rpm and one that didn't was to put it on the racetrack. The rod that survived was put in grandpas' Buick. That engines have become ever more powerful, efficient, and compact is directly attributable to racing.

BTW: Dodges' current 5.9 liter (358 c.i.) NASCAR type engine, the "dinosaur," you know, the one that's "old fashioned, archaic, [uses] pushrod(s), [and is made from] cast iron," puts out a little more than 800hp and it doesn't fly apart at 9000 rpm. Add 2 cylinders, give it fuel injection, an aluminum block, and then send it to charm school and put it in a Viper.

Copy. Paste. Enjoy.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/BangShiftVideo/videos/29/

Also: Hondas' very first forays into the four-wheeled world took place in Formula 1, and Mercedes was racing at the turn of the last century. Next time you're hauling the kids to soccer practice and your tach needle swings past 7,000 rpm and the engine doesn't explode, thank a racing engineer.

They are not as reliable as we all like to think!

for the Viper, however, Ferrari engineers don't have to go to extremes, with more than 8 liters displacement to work with they will design a cheap, low tech, high displacement, slow revving engine that will be easy to maintain and reliable too.

The original Viper had a Lamborghini aluminum block version V10 of the RAM truck!

Now I wonder if they'll have Schumacher do some track development on this.

Not happening IMO.