Ferrari Turbo Engine Patent Office Schematics Surface

 Ferrari Turbo Engine Patent Office Schematics Surface
Ferrari twin turbo V8 engine patent schematic

Autocar claim to have uncovered plans by Italian supercar maker Ferrari to develop a new turbo engine. Apparently a patent application by the automaker was filed with accompanying schematics. This patent is said to be for a "turbocharged internal combustion engine with V arrangement." Those who say they have seen it state that the number of cylinders is not specified but the drawing reveals a V8 layout.

A couple of speculative stories have appeared that purport to Ferrari changing its philosophical strategies somewhat. About two years ago it was thought that the Enzo replacement would be fitted with a twin turbo V8 engine. More recently the word dreaded most by hardcore enthusiasts, namely hybrid, was bandied about in the same sentence as the legendary Scuderia Ferrari. Worse still is that this supposed Ferrari hybrid works in conjunction with a 4x4 system.

Two of the motor manufacturers left in Formula One sell a range of turbocharged performance cars. But while BMW and Mercedes-Benz's turbo applications stretch their entire lineup, Ferrari hasn't touched a turbine in years, despite its greatest nemesis Porsche practically owning the high-performance turbo sphere. If Ferrari really is working on a turbo V engine this might mean that second turbo era in F1 is coming.

 

Source: autocar.co.uk

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 LeonOfTheDead LeonOfTheDead
I don't even know how they can believe this is true. The same with the supposed schemes for their hybrid and 4x4 systems...they don't even have an hybrid system yet!
May 29, 2009 1:26 pm
 HEMI426 HEMI426
Ferrari and turbo's = not good and pethetic
May 29, 2009 2:12 pm
 steelerfan2009 steelerfan2009
um the f40 was a turbo.
May 29, 2009 3:23 pm
 speed_freak speed_freak
It's true, the F40 has a 2.9L twin-turbo V8. Do some research first, kid.
May 29, 2009 8:47 pm
 afterace2 afterace2
I guess they will put this in their upcoming SUV?
May 29, 2009 2:57 pm
 MutantSushi MutantSushi
@Leon of the Dead: The hybrid reference is to another patent application which also was covered on this site. The writer here erroneously describes that system as "working in CONJUNCTION with a 4x4 system", when in fact the entire point of that hybrid system was that the main engine would remain solely linked to the rear wheels and individual electric motors would drive the front wheels when AWD is preferred to RWD. Likewise, the nature of patents seem not to be realized by the writers here, who bizarrely stress the number of cylinders portrayed in the patent. The patent is not related in any way to production plans, it's purpose is to describe an IDEA which clearly is not exclusive to a certain number of cylinders. The only substance of the story is that Ferrari may be looking to return to turbos... All the other stuff is extraneous fluff.
May 29, 2009 6:14 pm
 BrianWCF BrianWCF
Hey, i'm surprised you didn't quote autocar. jk :D
May 29, 2009 8:28 pm
 LeonOfTheDead LeonOfTheDead
What I meant, basically, is that, living in Modena and with a close friend involved in these projects, is that there is no patent filled or whatever it may be regarding an hybrid system to date. They are just wnodering on how to do it, but the simply idea to have the free space for an electric motor, let alone two, would be a dream come true for them. The 4x4 System is already designed in conjunction with Haldex on the other hand, while there is no reason to fill a patent for their new twin turbo V8 which, as far as I know, doesn't adopt any new technology or device to justify the patent. That said, I agree with you.
May 29, 2009 9:23 pm
 MutantSushi MutantSushi
Sure. The 'new technology' in the turbo patent looks to be a minor tweak of the twin turbo arrangement. Nothing so interesting, but the stuff of which patents are made, and indicating Ferrari's working with turbos. Re: the "hybrid" AWD patent (little related to Priuses and the like), mounting the electric motors within the front wheels themselves would be the likely solution if space is a constraint.
May 30, 2009 1:25 am
 Prince_Ash Prince_Ash
lol ferrari suv with turbo, thats just like the porsche cayenne. oh dear god what is ferrari doing.
May 29, 2009 6:38 pm
 carbonsigma carbonsigma
Children, children. Read the article. And just because something has four wheel drive doesn't mean it's an SUV.
May 29, 2009 11:36 pm
 Ash Ash
Pretty LAME looking PATENTS, looks like something done by a first year high school pupil. Very short on detail and real facts like measurements,tolerances,materials, etc...I call BS.
May 30, 2009 3:46 am
 sv7600 sv7600
Its just a patent.. all patents never make it to production..
May 30, 2009 12:10 pm
 LeonOfTheDead LeonOfTheDead
@ MutantSushi They don't have they space for electric motors or whatsoever. The solution would be using in-wheels motors, but afaik there aren't production ready units. Even managing to fit the AWD system has been quite a struggle. And it's a conventional one, a mechanical system, not involving the hybrid solution. What I know is they wanted to fit something Prius-like, but it's just an idea, a will, or was so until december '08.
May 30, 2009 3:21 pm
 out4ride out4ride
What's interesting is that u can see two air intakes for each turbo but then they blow air into master outlet before splitting into two intercoolers. Isn't in twin turbo system air blown from each turbo into its own intercooler?
May 30, 2009 4:07 pm
 ivanadrive ivanadrive
My guess would be that it's for a Maserati engine. Aren't they using Ferrari engines and weren't they reknown for their turbo engines?
May 30, 2009 10:27 pm
 joshg_5 joshg_5
T-T-T-TURBO F1....!!!!!! V-10 Turbo please! But Ecclestone will probably find a way to ruin that...
November 13, 2009 12:36 am