Daimler loses - Greek court rules in favor of Chinese smart fortwo clone

Shuanghuan Noble

Justice is blind

By Michael Gauthier
May 27, 2009 5:57 PM
Filed Under: Corporate/Financial, Design, European, Industry, Smart

There's an old saying that "justice is blind," an adage which has taken a literal meaning thanks to a Greek court's decision to dismiss Daimler's lawsuit against a Chinese copy of the Smart fortwo.

This effectively ends a long legal battle which started when Daimler blocked Shuanghuan from displaying the Noble at the Bologna Motor Show in 2007. Although the car was later allowed to go on sale in Europe in early 2008, Daimler kept up the pressure which resulted in Shuanghuan marketing the Noble under the slogan "Smarter than the rest".

The Greek court determined that "an informed buyer would not confuse the Noble with the Smart Fortwo." They also stated that because the two vehicles offer different technical specifications, any exterior styling similarities are irrelevant and almost inevitable because they're both mini-cars.

While many of us are likely to label the court's decision as ludicrous, it follows similar legal precedents set in other European court battles against an onslaught of Chinese clones.

Thankfully, many of the Chinese copies that eventually reach European markets typically fare poorly as consumers balk at their horrid questionable safety, quality and dismal reliability.

Source: gasgoo.com

Comments

RzGTmorio
May 27, 2009 6:11 PM
WTF? Chinese Justice

hahahahahahaha...

Dlaor
May 27, 2009 6:43 PM
If the gearbox of the original Smart didn't suck so hard, I'd consider buying one.

kimbo
May 27, 2009 7:04 PM
so daimler is the only one that have right to build small 2 passenger car?

MonnoncMaxou
May 27, 2009 7:14 PM
It has nothing to do with the fact that it is a Supermini 2 passenger car.

It has to do with the fact that it's a blatant copy. It's not impossible to make a similar car that is distinguishable. Toyata did with the IQ.

TheSilentKnight
May 27, 2009 7:31 PM
Oh WTF?! Come on you dumb-arsed judges, wake up! Isn't it obvious people that those within the Greek court are not in tune with the world of motoring. Obviously they don't mind saving a penny or two for some cheap Chinese crap with human body parts probably hidden within the vehicle ( as I speculated before when we talked about that BYD T6 crap-heap, aka cheap Chinese copy of the Porsche Cayenne ), hence their stupid decision based purely on out-dated economics. Shame, Greek court, shame. Even more shame on the Chinese car manufacturing industry, who are about to penetrate my market ( the Australian market ) with their motorised toilet seats. Cause that's all Chinese-made care are good for, crapping in.

Xanavi23
May 28, 2009 12:27 AM
Hey man, cool it. Im greek, i don't agree with the decisions although the reasons they stated make sense. Also unless you're illiterate, the article says that many other European states have already taken the same stance and decision, Greece is just echoing others in tough economic times.

freeway
May 27, 2009 8:44 PM
that decision is totally stupid... with this paper in their hands chinese clone crap cars will invade all countries (much like H1N1 flu) and they will feel free now to copy more and more brands... hopefully the buyers will know which is which and will refuse these trash bins on wheels


Edited by user on May 27, 2009 at 9:08 PM
adz612
May 27, 2009 9:26 PM
How the hell do the chinese keep getting away with cloning cars? My Lord! Please just kill it

scratchy996
May 27, 2009 9:36 PM
this is just the beginning...

HEMI426
May 27, 2009 9:37 PM
THese chinese are just lazy or they can't pay any designers. The judge on this case has obviously never seen a smart fortwo

Pentium
May 27, 2009 10:36 PM
Those Chinese makers should die forever!

igabbmw
May 28, 2009 1:31 AM
Can't agree more

jdmgtr
May 27, 2009 10:51 PM
I say "You go China!", because Mercedes is simply a trendy wannabe company, where as most Chinese automakers are just trying to get by in a half communist country.

N20_Purge
May 27, 2009 11:49 PM
Screw chinese designers. They probably got away with this since 80% of purchasable items have a 'Made in China' logo on them.

captwhizbang
May 28, 2009 1:25 AM
So whats new...they've already copied checkers and fire drills...no telling what else is going on behind that big arse wall they built!

Aesthetics
May 28, 2009 3:39 AM
they have the audacity to call it 'noble' and had a marketing slogan which says "smarted than the rest".

Aesthetics
May 28, 2009 3:43 AM
Star Wars, The Clone Wars

opelbauer
May 28, 2009 12:09 PM
Hahaaa that's right! :)

Aluraeo
May 28, 2009 5:52 AM
Hahaha its ironic everyone is screwing chinese cars over when in all honesty I dare anyone who drives a main-stream car to tell me that in their cars there is no parts made from china....

My view on this is simple. European car manufacturers are now forced to up their game. All the better for us consumers who at times have to put up with over-priced cars.

HUMM3R
May 28, 2009 8:07 AM
this is rubbish. damn them. all they are good for is copying. no talent

Razz
May 28, 2009 11:30 AM
Who will buy this piece of sxxx? After we have all had experiences with fake copies for clothing, electronics and so on .. now they think that we will buy an European Car chinese copy? It.s like suicide planning if you buy, not drunke being, a car like this .. the Smart is THE Smart .. and that's it !


Edited by user on May 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM
alessandro
May 28, 2009 12:10 PM
Application of European tradition of justice to the Asian mentality never works because of remarkable gap between two worlds. One is based on individuality, onto the law supporting rights of one (any) being, second one is collective farm, based on suppression of individuality under "interest" (no such thing but anyway) of many. That case was lost because of the justice as it is blind and so unable to see its own limits on interpretations of law beyond the interests of individual rights with not to be deliberately confronted to any system which is not based on defense of individual interests in that world.

It is a basic conflict in our planet even in accord with Bible.


Edited by user on May 28, 2009 at 12:17 PM
nendor
May 28, 2009 12:25 PM
they should copy Bugatti or 599 or an SLR :P not SMaRT ..

THERENAISSANCEMAN
May 28, 2009 4:45 PM
that's right China . don't follow the dirty ,shameless , double-standard example established by the United States of America who stole Nazi Germany's military technology secrets after the war plus their truckload of scientists in order to jumpstart its archaic war machines . ....it's blatant THIEVERY you know...oh , and did I forget to mention about Roosevelt requiring Britain to transfer wholesale it's wartime technology to the US in exchange for the Yanks helping the Brits during the dark days of WW2 ? now that is qualified IMPERIALIST statecraft plain and simple , you know .

amhirst
May 29, 2009 11:13 AM
From a technical point of view, the two cars are not that similar. The Noble is a 4-seater, and has a front-engined layout. Hence the ruling of the court.

MTC
May 29, 2009 8:30 PM
I'm a shame of my race, since I'm a Chinese. I always wonder why no one have the guts and idea of building something unique? WHY?

anonymous
May 30, 2009 3:01 PM
yea. they should make a copy of slr. i'll be the first to test drive it. slr selling at a price of a normal sedan, anyone interested?

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