2010 Porsche 911 GT3 Posts 7m 40s Time on Nurburgring
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mc959
here's the truth about a test between gtr and gt2, in damp conditions and the porsche with semi slick tyres:
http://magazines.drivers-republic.com/driversrepublic/thetruth030/
this is for al the gtr lovers.
i never could believe the time of the gtr and here you have a test where it should be faster with 4wd and it just isn't.
April 24, 2009 11:48 am
kimbo
hello porsche lover. What about TG's track time? BS from Nissan people as well? :D
April 24, 2009 12:34 pm
scratchy996
you need good Playstation skills to drive a GT-R , skills that Walter Rohrl and The Stig lack.
April 24, 2009 1:08 pm
James2911
How come the manufacturers must always claim they could easily have gone faster? :P
April 24, 2009 12:04 pm
deliverinsanity
Because they are all kids deep inside, how else would you justify making a GT3 (Or 911 altogether)? :)
And yes, it's a good thing.
April 24, 2009 12:10 pm
ght
Porsche is so jealous,GTR is much faster and it has been proven on different tracks.
April 24, 2009 12:38 pm
mc959
Yeah right, all those tests where made with cars provided by nissan, now you have to prove me that it can be done with a normal GTR from anybody else...
And don't use the launchcontrol too much or else it cost you +20.000USD....
April 24, 2009 12:49 pm
mortz
The gear replacement for the broken transmission is $1500 US. small price to pay after doing a few hundred launches.
April 24, 2009 9:53 pm
alessandro
Yes it looks like a frog indeed and hence we despirately missing a beautiful rear drive car-pincess we should kiss every Porsche we can to give to the fortune a chance.
April 25, 2009 5:05 pm
122
Personally i don't care about these lap times anymore. They've taken it a bit out of hand, just for bragging rights. Bottom line is both are fast, and one is cheaper than the other. I'd take the skyline because its cheaper. :)
April 24, 2009 1:16 pm
joshg_5
Prestige...
That's why most of the people who buy these cars buy these cars.
You don't think the majority of people who own GT3s, GTRs, and ZR1s actually track them do you...?
April 24, 2009 10:21 pm
cornflakes99
When McLaren finally launches the P11 it will wipe the floor with both these pretenders anyway, so Nissan & Porsche enjoy you time in the sun while it lasts!!
April 24, 2009 1:23 pm
scratchy996
that's what they said about the McLaren F1 and then the Dauer 962 and the Porsche GT1 wiped the floor with it.
April 24, 2009 4:11 pm
scratchy996
GT1 Strassenversion , homologation special road legal GT1.
Dauer 962 LM , road version of the Porsche 962.
April 25, 2009 1:13 pm
trspeed600
This dispute will only be resolved when all contenders race at the same time. Porsche has invited Nissan to the challenge and they declined....why? Because their times will not hold under equal conditions. Porsche is hiding nothing, but Nissan cannot say the same.
April 24, 2009 2:10 pm
catchmyshadow
a GT-3 at 7.38-40 with the new facelift set up and just 435 BHP, imagine what an improved GT-2 will do. and as far as the reliabilty is concerned, all supercars whether it is a Koenigsegg, Zonda, Enzo are a mess after a serveral thousand miles. except for a carrera GT, SLR mc laren or a veyron. those are machines are built to last.
April 24, 2009 2:15 pm
scratchy996
i'm dissapointed they didn't use Direct Injection for this engine. imagine a GT2 with a 3.8l biturbo engine , Direct Injection and PDK... i'm drooling already.
April 24, 2009 4:22 pm
catchmyshadow
yeah, but u know this GT3-MKII (Facelift) still carries the famous GT1 racing block, the `mezger bullet proof` block. It is not that environmentally friendly like the DI-engines, but a hell of a race-engine. The PDK is another story, should be an option for the GT3, agree.
April 24, 2009 6:38 pm
nederina
the engine is still at the wrong place porsche! instead of wasting more money in the nurburgring chasing the datsun, just work on the mid-engined lightweight cayman with at least 450bhp will seal the deal. or just invite nissan to participate a friendly race.
April 24, 2009 2:19 pm
scratchy996
yeah , the engine is in the wrong place , that must be the reason why Porsche has more racing victories than anyone else...
April 24, 2009 4:16 pm
mint
I love porsche, but this is just too much. How many stories and excuses can you come up with? pathetic.
skewing the results to sell cars.
April 24, 2009 2:58 pm
cornflakes99
@ Beetle McLaren broken down at the side of the road?.....Can you elaborate on this, not sure what you mean?
April 24, 2009 3:27 pm
Beetle
It was just over all really , about how many mercedes cars when testing or under disguise have broken down recently.
An example:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090225.018/mercedes-slc-gullwing-spied-having-electrical-problems.
April 24, 2009 4:31 pm
thamzn
Seems the GT-R is the slower, more practical everyday choice. GT2 is for drivers who wish to spend lots of time on a track.
April 24, 2009 4:10 pm
sufu
there is NO WAY GT-R can do 7 minute 29.03 seconds or quicker! You have to understand how characteristic of Japanese first. They CAN'T ACCPET failure. Think about it. GT-R calimed to have 480 hp, and CGT has 100+ more hp. How could GT-R beat CGT? If it is a American muscle car then it may happen. Porsche? No way sir. Do the physics.
April 24, 2009 4:19 pm
scratchy996
they also claim that every GT-R engine is different and they all use personalized gearboxes for every engine. who knows what engine/gearbox/setup Nissan uses for their test runs. i wonder why no one can re-create their claimed times on the Ring using a stock GT-R.
April 24, 2009 4:28 pm
harshreality
And you CANT SPELL! So you are an expert on the Japanese? I dont know why you nits think that Porsche is above reproach. Do you think they would actually admit that their over priced cars are ever beaten during their own tests? I seem to recall an article a few years ago where Mr Rorhl stated that the Carrera GT was faster than an Enzo around the ring despite being heavier and have less power.. well that was proved WRONG when Black Falcon ran an Enzo, CGT, MC12, Zonda F, and a CCX in back to back days. The Enzo was about 3 seconds faster despite losing its shocks half way through the run and the MC12 was even faster.. so how do you explain that Porsche fans?
April 24, 2009 6:57 pm
sufu
dear harshreality,
yes I am a expert on Japanese. I have been studying Asian history since 7th grade. The only history class you had was probably American History which is only 200+ years. Asian history is 5,000 years+. So, do the math.
The best evidence we all have is: no one has been able to create the same lap time (or even closer time) on the ring with a stock GT-R. If they have done modifications on the car then that's called "CHEATING", and that also proves my theory of Japanese CANT ACCEPT FAILURES. Do the physics please. A car with 100+ more hp with absolutely better aerodynamic can not be beaten by a 480hp GT-R. I also suggest you to go back to school and study. Your Japanese car pride is not gonna help you to win this debate.
April 24, 2009 10:36 pm
cornflakes99
@ Beetle
Sorry I don't mean to be a Pedantic prick, but McLaren hasn?t got anything to do with the new gullwing Merc it?s there AMG in-house project. Thanks for the reply though.
April 24, 2009 5:59 pm
mortz
SUFU, Are you sure about the aerodynamics the GT-R has a cd of 0.27 , what car beats that?? Also no human culture like to fail its humans in general! not just the Japanese!
April 24, 2009 10:49 pm
mortz
The GT-R just posted a 7,26.7 around the nurburgring with the base model with standard rims. I think Porsche is just bitter that its not only the nurburgring track the gt-r is faster around. Nissan still has the spec-v time to release yet which should be even harder for Porsche to believe
April 24, 2009 6:37 pm
catchmyshadow
as long as they don`t find a good and totally objective driver, who can push both cars* to their very limits in exactly the same conditions, this cannot be solved. (*100% stock set up, same wheels etc. and not prepared by both companies for the test).
April 24, 2009 6:42 pm
mortz
@sufu. i think you should do your physics. the gt-r isn't just faster around the nurburgring there's many more track test that show the gt-r faster than the 997t, gt2 and gt3 and they are cheating too!!
April 24, 2009 6:42 pm
nederina
as much as i love the GTR, but i probably go for the GT3 or the Corvette with manual stick and rear wheel drive. these two cars will give me excitement, thrill and more driving involvement on the track.
April 24, 2009 6:47 pm
harshreality
yeah.. because youve apparently driven all 3 cars at their absolute limits...
April 24, 2009 7:39 pm
joshg_5
I agree with the original comment. After reading, seeing and hearing numerous statements that the GT-R is far from a drivers car. "Any nit can drive it fast".
A ZR1 of GT2/3 would be a much better driving experience. Period.
April 24, 2009 10:26 pm
nederina
hahaha i never got the chance to drive the corvette just yet. big naturally aspirated engine, six-speed manual, rear wheel drive - a cut price ferrari 599? more like a 550. it's a shame they don't have in right hand drive.
April 25, 2009 4:58 am
harshreality
Oh wow.. the great joshg_5 has spoken! Driving "pleasure" and "involvement" is subjective PERIOD. What someone else considers an involving and pleasureable driving experience could be totally different from 5 other people.
April 25, 2009 6:45 am
joshg_5
Actually something factual isn't subjective. A computer drives the GT-R.
btw, don't get so emotional, man...
April 25, 2009 7:43 pm
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