Nissan GT-R SpecV First Independent Tsukuba Circuit Laptimes Reported

 Nissan GT-R SpecV First Independent Tsukuba Circuit Laptimes Reported
Nissan GT-R SpecV / gtrblog.com

The following news will either disappoint or delight some Nissan GT-R fans. The new GT-R SpecV is slower than the standard GT-R. In fact, it's slower than both the MY08 and MY09 cars. Good news for standard car owners, bad news for those who have or are planning to shell out the equivalent of ¥15,750,000 for a SpecV.

Japan's Best Motoring publication has gotten a hold of the mighty SpecV and they wasted no time in heading for the Tsukuba Circuit to test Nissan's claims for themselves. To make matters interesting they put legendary racer Keiichi "The Drift King" Tshuchiya behind the wheel. Even he could not beat the MY08 and MY09 times of 1:01.888 and 1:01.343 respectively. The car could only manage a best time of 1:02.4. Best Motoring says the conditions under which all three cars were tested were similar.

The SpecV weighs 60kg less than the factory car. It's powered by a 3.8-litre twin turbo V6 with 480hp (353kW) and 434 ft-lb of torque. No explanation is forthcoming on this pressing issue yet, suffice to say perhaps the upcoming issue of Best Motoring in which the car was tested will provide some answers.

 

Source: gtrblog.com

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 Sedaer Sedaer
WHAT THE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......................
February 25, 2009 4:24 pm
 Joe_Limon Joe_Limon
was the drift king drifting the car and getting lap times of 1:02.4?
February 25, 2009 4:26 pm
 super_car_muscle_man super_car_muscle_man
lol
March 1, 2009 11:26 am
 trinity trinity
Are the MY08 and MY09 times puplished by nissan? cause they seem to have a messed up stopwatch... i mean, it gave them a 7:29 for the nuerburgring :P
February 25, 2009 5:03 pm
 dbehmoaras dbehmoaras
The Nurburgring is not a drift track. It's a race track where real drivers go to do some real driving. However fun drifting may be, it will never appear on the Nurburgring for very good reason. On that note, what is the Nurburgring lap time for the Spec-V? The 'Ring time is the only one that really matters because it is the only track that tests every single aspect of performance of a car. As for the reason why these lap times are slower, I think it's because Nissan decided to build a car that goes forward, not sideways.
February 25, 2009 5:24 pm
 sub39h sub39h
just because they used someone called "The Drift King" doesn't mean he drifted around the track. i think i agree with trinity. Nissan tend to exaggerate their times or use non production tyres and the like so they come out with faster times than others would. i find it hard to believe that a competent driver would be significantly worse than a Nissan test driver just because they "know the car better".
February 25, 2009 7:51 pm
 lucifa lucifa
I'd have to agree with trinity and sub39h - this guy isn't exactly a poor driver, the conditions were similar and I can't see him taking it easy because the engine hasn't been worked in or anything. I dunno, this raises interesting questions of Nissan for me...
February 26, 2009 5:38 am
 jko2001 jko2001
Isn't each engine handmade, allowing for some differences in power output for each individual vehicle? Maybe they tested some "more powerful than average" MY08 and MY09 cars and a "less powerful than average" SpecV. I'm not sure what the standard deviations on the HP and torque in these cars are..just speculating
February 25, 2009 5:07 pm
 Iconic Iconic
Handmade or not, it shouldn't be slower than the base version. this should make for some fun arguments. interesting.
February 25, 2009 5:25 pm
 kimbo kimbo
the only explanation for this I can think of is that the car wasn't run in and had very low mileage. This can make HUGE difference.
February 25, 2009 5:23 pm
 vilivo vilivo
Well, I don't know what every1 is complaining about, he obviously drove the car with his best Drift King ability, so a result of 1.02.4 sideways when the MY08 & MY09 did it with test-drivers who knew the car well, and had months spent doing laps in it, ONLY did 1.01 going forward... Besides, it looks a bit like...
February 25, 2009 5:41 pm
 350Zed 350Zed
This article has been up for over an hour, and still no sign of 'Vette-Trolls? WTF? Where's the "See, a ZR1 will eat this jap-crap!!!!!!!111oneone" in a whiney voice we've all grown to enjoy?
February 25, 2009 5:41 pm
 Bremen_Koenigsegg Bremen_Koenigsegg
So the SpecV is different from the standard GT-R in what important way? Weighing sixty kilograms less and employing ceramic brakes but producing the same amount of power is not what I would consider a "hotted up GT-R." Depending on how much (or how little) braking is done on the circuit, it does not seem like this car should be decidedly faster than the standard version. After all, what is 60kg in a 2+2 coupe? While I don't agree it is in reality slower than the standard version, I certainly don't believe it is worth the premium. They didn't even have the sense to up the power! I'm sure there is a good reason for this... does anybody know why?
February 25, 2009 7:23 pm
 pzigly pzigly
I dont think they are 100% confident with the engine yet. Its brand new, so they dont know how it will react to more hp. A tuner adds hp and can consider if they choose to, to look at long term effects. Nissan has to look at long term wear and tear so they dont look bad if things go wrong. This is why they choose to put a v8 in the GT-R race car. I hope they correct this and have NISMO take over the plans for this. Did NISMO tune this or did Nissan?
February 26, 2009 2:14 am
 hussaint hussaint
**** the GT-r get a ZR-1 and sleep tight
February 25, 2009 8:19 pm
 mortz mortz
I'm sure Nissan tuned the spec-v, the v-spec models from the skyline gt-rs r32, r33 and r34 were never much faster than the standard model just had body enhancements and some better components, nissan might have plans to bring out another model maybe even a nur edition with some help from NISMO?? but for the extra price to pay for a spec-v one would imagine they would have it faster than the base model?? who knows time will tell, its a shame Nissan isn't going to publish anymore nurburgring times thanks to Porsche.
February 26, 2009 4:48 am
 mortz mortz
We will have to wait for more test for better reference and comparisons, I'm sure they wouldn't have the spec-v slower than the standard gt-r, still early days yet.
February 25, 2009 9:15 pm
 GT-RunSPECtacularV GT-RunSPECtacularV
But, huh, wha, but, waaaaaaaa! Say it ain't so, yo. It's funny how the GT-R kiddies had to wait for the ZR1 trolls to show up for over an hour when you know dam well the GT-R trolls would of been here faster! Well kiddies, you do have that and only that with which to claim superiority over the ZR1! HA!!! The "Being Faster Trolls" trophy awaits you in the trunk of your brand new $161,000USD ($46,000 more than a loaded ZR1!) GT-R unSPECtacularV. I already see a lot of excuses, but not to many of you will admit to being shamed by Nissan and all the false reports that were started by the GT-R kiddies all over Blogs everywhere. 7:25 at the ring by track side hand held stop watches which was a made up time through the blogs anyways, and never happened! The GT-R is still a terrific car, but like every manufacturer around the world they go to far at times and come up with an over-priced version of the original! Then there are companies like Chevrolet that get it right with cars like the ZR1 that when you look at it now is a very reasonably priced Super Car compared to the GT-R SpecV's $161,000USD and the fact that the SpecV's performance is not even up to the standard GT-R's puts it in the "Not for that price" category. Stop making excuses and live with it. The GT-R SpecV was not designed to out due the GT-R on the track, but to give it the "looks" of a Super Car the GT-R falls short of....The black anthracite wheels, more Carbon Fiber and Ceramic rotors all do the job but leave the car short on performance. I read someone here say Nissan needed to work things out and it's to early to go by these marks......um, no. This car has been run around the Ring more than the standard GT-R and has had more R&D done on it than anything Nissan has produced since the Datsun days!
February 25, 2009 11:22 pm
 Joe_Limon Joe_Limon
This shows one thing very well. Driver skill and experience with the car is perhaps the single most powerful aspect when putting down awesome lap times. No wonder why Porsche drivers couldn't just hop in and get a perfect ring lap.
February 26, 2009 12:09 am
I watch Best Motoring every month and the magazines track times are based on normal style driving. They purpose is to record the fastest time...no there is no drifting. The "Drift King" happens to be a competent race car driver. He got the name "Drift King" because he would show off with his drifting as fan service at races.
February 26, 2009 12:16 am
 mortz mortz
The spec-v was tested on a damp track
April 11, 2009 8:40 am
 Aluraeo Aluraeo
I've seen best motoring video of the my08 and my09 1:01.888 and 1:01.343 on that same track. Also in the Best Motoring test crew Keiichi is one hell of a driver. You should see the Sti vs Evo test they did (mind you its the Jap Sti not the Crappy euro spec one, the Japs engine may be only 2 litres but it revs to 8k rpm and is more powerful.) In Keiichi's hands he decimated the evo x's. I dont think the driver is the problem here. could it be that the V spec was not properly aligned when they tested it? Hmmm can't wait for the answer
February 26, 2009 1:18 am
 tootall tootall
With this scenario I say the best out of 5. Because it's all a bit weird to me.
February 26, 2009 1:27 am
 BavarianMS BavarianMS
Thats what you get when you talk smack to Porsche lol. The nissan GTR is a great car but the spec v is a waste of time and money...
February 26, 2009 5:38 am
 afterace2 afterace2
You see, the GTR is such an awesome car, that it is even better than it's top spec version !
February 26, 2009 7:11 am
 BavarianMS BavarianMS
afterace lol you got it right on the money ZING ZING ZING!!! lol
February 26, 2009 7:29 am
 norther norther
they said the spec v will have 520 bhp... now it's 480, in other words...stock? thats stupid...
February 26, 2009 6:36 pm
 pzigly pzigly
THE BRAKES!!!!! I just remembered that the new Spec-V uses ceramic discs instead of the steel on the standard GT-R. Maybe the brakes weren't hot enough for the test. That is the only explination. Everything performance wise on here is the same except for the suspention and the brakes. Ceramic brakes should stay on race cars!! Go back to the steel and slot them if you want to upgrade them. That will probably knock off $20k from the pricetag too!!
February 28, 2009 11:46 am
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