Rumors: Porsche GT2 RS in the Works

definitely not worth the money... $250 g puts you in the range of super exotics such.

Ya but this car will deal fairly easily with all other cars that cost 250k. Its worth the Tag if you live comfortably enough to afford it and are looking for one of the best track stars.

But it's still a 911, the RS model designation will strip it of anything "luxurious"... not that carpet rear seats were luxurious to begin with... and leave you with a pure track car. As soon as you go into pure track car territory I can name several at under half the price of this car that would annihilate even a 600hp sub 3000lb 911...

Ya, but not many of those pure track cars will cost less than 250k, save for the little beast Caterham 7.

what about the ariel atom, ktm xbow, ultima gtr, factory five gtm, reynard inverter, radical's... there are a ton of cars well under 250g's that would can pull off the whole drive to the track whoop everything and then drive back home again in one piece better then this car.

You're totally right but still though, call me wrong but even a stripped 911 is still somewhat more practical at least than most of those cars, remember i said most. It will have at least a bit better better headroom, legroom and even a bit more luggage space than those cars.

Though i admit, im a huge fan of the Reynard, Ultima and even the Radical which has evolved alot in recent times.

I suppose though even a stripped 911 will have great build quality, not to say that any of those cars will have crap quality either.

Porsche have head room? nah, they're pretty small, I doubt even the hard top cars I mentioned would have a headroom problem, if they do, nobody over 6'3" and wearing a helmet will fit in em. Reliability? that I would also hand off to the sup compacts, civic motors and such don't blow up that easily ;)... unlike 600hp Porsche motors... whenever Porsche enters super car territory, they tend to bring the supercar reliability with them... but sure, I'll give it to you on the room to throw stuff in the back seat ;) hardly a feature worth that price tag though.

What in the world are you talking about, there have been 600hp+ 3.6 H engines out there on stock internals since the late 90s, most of them still running. I have seen 680hp 1997 Turbos still going strong today. What about the Carrera GT, the most reliable and driveable supercar?? The ariel atom WAS probably more reliable because of its simplicity compared to a porsche, the S2000 engine was amazing, but now that GM POS no thanks. But what about the Caparo-T1, that thing is very unreliable, and last i checked there werent many supercars out there that are 250k brand new, you would be hard pressed to find a 2006 murcielago for 250k.

Note that I never mentioned the Caparo... its way more expensive and is horrendously unreliable. Carrera GT driveable? and reliable? pfft I'll have what you're having please... unless of course your just sniffing canned porsche exec farts. There is a reason why some of those cars may still be running today. a. they aren't daily drivers, b. they are babied and the drivers drive like grannies, c. they aren't babied and the drivers fork out a ton of cash keeping them running. Seriously, you are talking about 167bhp/L... reliablility... and laughing at the reliability of the ecotec... lol radmesiter, I have no respect for you. The stuff you say. Oh and btw, even the american atoms are all running 08 Honda K20 engines now.

I want to see this made.

And I want to see stockbrokers crashing their GT2 RSs...

I love the idea. The GT-2 is fast but it could use some more in face of its stiff competition. This would take it to the next level. 50more hp with say at least 100lbs off will make a huge difference.

God bless the 911...say what you will, i love the damn car in all its forms and models.

I hear of the GT2 RS, but why no GT1? I want to see a new GT1.

there is no gt1,there is a carrera gt,and they dont produce them anymore

Basecally because the GT1 was made ONLY to race in the LMGT1 Le Mans class. The GT2 was originally made for the same reason but Porsche saw from the first models(993) that buyers would be willing to buy higher performance exclusive Porsches at a higher price but the GT1 was never intended or made in many numbers for Porsche to do the same thing. Now Porsche competes in LMP2 at their own highest level and street versions aren't required for that class.

wat about the ring time now Porsche?? any attempts to beat the present king? ;)

yep, i agree with SRIS

This car is probably made too show that Porsche still King of the Ring, they received a big slap in the face and this will be the response, and when they have an objective they mostly get what they want....

The king is the Zonda F, soon the Zonda R, which last i checked no 1000hp GT-R can touch and also no 911.

What people forget about the Zonda is that it will set the 1st or 2nd fastest lap of ALL sports cars on every track because thats what its made for primarily. A very reliable track monster with street legality.

I love Porsche but only their Defunct CGT, and cars like the Enzo can truly stand with the Zonda on all tracks at any day, any time.

@ Radmeister

Sorry but the King of the Ring is still the 1983 Porsche 956 with a laptime of 6:11:13, and i think this time will stay for a long time.

Ya but remember it was a race car with about700 hp(lowest of the Group C cars despite winning many races) and weighed about 1890~lbs so while you're right, it is the purest form of closed wheel race car.

Joe i dont know what your talking about...there are GTs in dubai that are driven every day in one of the harshest climates around, Jay Leno drove it 4hrs straight around an oval track pedal all the way down only stopping for fuel, and with no break downs. Give ur BS up, the CGT is THE most reliable supercar out there, only one that can touch it for reliability would be the Zonda. Congrats you are right i wasnt aware that the new Atom went back to the K20 for 2008-2009, i wonder y that is? Because the Ecotec was so good right?? Doubt it there joe, the K20 is 2x the price of the Ecotec, only reason why they would have gone back is because they tried the lower cost alternative and it failed. Why does lotus use Toyota engines? Because the ecotec is better right? I guess GM is in trouble because the world is stupid for not buying their products right? Only Joe is smart. Face it dude, the world is more educated than you, GM produces crappy engines and crappy cars. Porsche is better than GM in every single aspect. And at 250,000$ US this car would be somewhere between an R8 V10 and a Ferrari F430 in price, and better in performance than both, it would have that entire market sector to itself. The day the new EcoBoost 3.6L V6 gets 750hp with stock internals i will bow down to you. Until then chill.

Rad, don't forget the mark-ups on said F430, finding a new one for 250k without any steep mark-ups, goodluck.

Me chill? Ecoboost wasn't designed as a performance engine, it's designed for reliability and fuel economy (Porsche doesn't design cars for the masses, that's why they are expensive to fix, suck gas, and have a $20,000 brand loyalty fee built into them ;) haha), if you think I have an ego, look in the mirror. Good ole 800hp chevy's are driven around ovals hours on end, yet in your mind I bet you believe they are one of the least reliable engines on the planet. The reason why the Atom went back to a honda motor isn't because the ecotec's weren't reliable, it's because they don't have the name prestige and sales were hurting because of it. Don't believe me? look at how much whining and complaining people such as yourself have made over the fact that they used a "barbaric american engine"... Stop trying to change the subject, I stated that the 911 gt2rs is a stupid idea because it's a stripped down 911... meaning it's a pure track car. As far as track cars go $250,000 is hella expensive. I listed several cars that would annihilate a gt2 rs, all of which were well below $200,000. The only gram of light in your reply was mentioning that the Caparo is a track car too... and by mentioning it's reliability (though not it's price for some reason) you hoped to show this gt2 as if it was another "perfect porsche"... when in reality, it's just another rehashed 911.

It isn't a stupid idea because regardless how many "track toys" can beat it, it will still sell. Porsche learned along time ago there is a market for them sell very low production volume 911s at a higher cost, as long as they were set apart. In the 80s, they sold rare expensive Porsches that only had special bodywork, badging and trim and they all sold.

Look at the 911GT3 RS, its essentially a stripped 911 by your standards and it still sells.

You don't have to like the car, but stupid implies either that it won't sell or that it isn't well thought out, in either case, thats wrong.

Fine, I will admit that it isn't a stupid idea from a business or marketing standpoint... when you have brand name recognition milk it for all it's worth... that being said I feel sorry for the chumps who laugh at their wives expensive brand name shoes/purses and later go out to drive their brand name "Porsche"

Again, that comparison is flawed. The wifes shoes serve one purpose, to look good. Compared to a pair of Nike or Puma shoes that look good and can help you play a fine game of basketball or soccer. At least the husband can do a hell of alot more than just look good in this Porsche.

Look good? It's the same visual design as it's $50,000 sibling, and imo doesn't look that good... I don't like the R8's aesthetics either, but I will give it more props then the 911... at least it's something new. So no, I still believe Porsche's is nothing more then auto prada.

Yeah an F430 with taxes and mark ups would be in the neighborhood of 400k, here is the thing joe, quality and price are not related linearly, why can porsche, bmw, audi, mercedes sell a slightly better car for 100,000$ more than a vette? Because the vette is so crap, people are left unsatisfied and would be willing to pay 2x the price for something 10% better. If you are upset with these prices blame your dear american makers for producing such low end crap to the point where people are so desperate for a better product that they would pay 2x more. This happens with everything, same thing in clothing, a pair of Levis is 50$, a pair of Armani Exchange jeans is 200$, the armanis are not 4x better, they are just better enough that people would buy them. Long story short, people are not chumps for buying a Porsche, it's not their fault that the competition is so inferior, would you spend 126k on a ZR-1 and every day when you get in it you feel like you got ripped off? No, you would swallow the fact that you have to spend an extra 100k and get a GT-2 or settle for a GT-R. It's a bigger waste of $ to buy an american alternative, because then you are just throwing your $ away, at least this way you buy something you actually enjoy. Trust me corvettes and vipers get old, after a while you hate it, i've driven a 2003 Z06, sure it was super fun at first, the power was great, but after that stops impressing you you are left staring at the interior, the uncomfortable seats, shitty radio, you start hating everything about the car, because after the glory of the engine disappears you are left with nothing but a Cobalt that you paid 126,000$ for. A porsche is like your wife, perhaps she may not be the most beautiful woman in the world, or to some stranger seem like she was not worth the price, but to you deep down you know she was because of her character and personality. Thats a porsche. It's deeper than a boner, it's love.

Your opinion Joe, i still find the 911 especially the 997/8 the most gorgeous car in production right now. I love the classic body and always will. She is sexy.

Radmeister, i disagree somewhat on the Corvette commentary but you have driven a 2003 Z06 so you have the right to your opinion, nonetheless, that was a great post.

AHAHAHA, Porsche doesn't have quality interiors. Any company that uses carpet as one of their seat materials is so ridiculously far from being quality or luxury of any kind. You are so shallow Radmeister, wanting $200 jeans is not wanting 5% better quality pants... it's wanting something that is brand name so that you can feel better about yourself. No wonder you have such a hard on for Porsche, it isn't because it is better, or because you get what you pay for, it all boils down to the fact that you are a consumer wh0re who feels that your worth in life is measured by owning things others perceive as better simply because they are more expensive... I gotta $20,000 pen wanna buy it? here I'll even give you a super deal, 75% off... $5000? I hear it's german ;)

Shallow? Why are you always so angry man, seems like you hate the world, throwing around such deep words withtout even knowing me. Or knowing people that own a Porsche, you are just mad at them because they have it and you dont, so you sit here trying to convince yourself that you dont really want it because if you had it you would be "shallow" and a cancer to society. But don't you realize you are worse than the people that you label as shallow, because you know what at the end of the day they don't hurt anyone and they are free to do what they want with their money, but you go around spewing this hate and labeling people, so who is really the bad guy? Instead of hating more fortunate people than you appreciate them and try to learn from them, and you will see when you go over to the dark side you will not be thinking the same. I wonder do you hate women that wear a 2800$ purse and 1000$ shoes? If you do something is seriously wrong with you.

Xanavi; yeah i was thinking of buying one, had one picked out, this old man owned it 12,000km and only 40,000$ red with black leather. It was gorgeous, it was love at first sight, i drove around the city for a night and it was amazing, nice empty hwys. I had a smile on my face the entire time, spent an entire tank of gas and put on about 300km on that 12,000km. But then the unexpected happened, accident on the hwy. So i sat in traffic for 2hrs, and when you are not moving you are just left with 2 seats, the interior and the radio, and let me tell you the rest of the car is not as impressive without the engine there. And as stunning as the car looks from the outside, it doesn't give you any satisfaction when you are stuck inside. I decided to not buy it, and got a car that is in a completely different category. A 2005 A8 L and i am very happy with it, sure it doesn't go like the vette, but the roads for the most part arent an open highway and when i am stuck in traffic or just lurking through the city i am very comfortable in my seat, i got a great radio, great climate control system, and a smooth ride. And to me that means more than a great engine in an empty shell. People may disagree but thats just my opinion.

You know what, you are right. I know I am very judgmental. I don't however view that as a bad thing. I judge ladies that have super expensive purses, I believe that they are also being shallow. That doesn't mean I hate them though. Also, you are kind of right about not being able to own a Porsche, being 21 and taking university, I don't have the money to buy expensive cars yet. That being said, my family is very well off and I do see my future in the same light. Being super judgmental I have very strong views towards people driving various cars even though I don't know them. When I see someone driving a prius, I instantly think they they were either suckered into the green hype or they have flawed thinking and plan to save money on gas by spending more money and buying a new car... when I see a Ferrari I see a very expensive car, someone who has worked hard to get it, and someone who probably doesn't realize anything about the car. Cause face it, no mechanic will ever have the money to buy a new ferrari. When I see a Porsche however, all I see is arrogance due to people I have met such as yourself and halo cluster. When I read the specs, and witness the cars in real life I cannot add together anything that would make the Porsche stand out against its competitors. Therefore I believe they are over hyped cars not worth investing in... I am very comfortable in saying that brand name appeal has no effect on me.

Sure there are a lot of douchebags driving porsches around, same with ferrari and lamborghini, people that just have $ and buy a car to show off that they have $. BUT, here is the thing there is a racetrack not far from where i live and i went there once on a Porsche day, it was mostly men in their 40s-50s, lawyers, doctors and people that ran their own businesses. They came with their wives and kids. But you know what most of them were pretty cool, and they gave it all they had on the track, some more than others. I live by the law of don't judge others until you have been in their shoes. We are not so different, im 22 and graduated from univ a year ago, worked for a year and now i run my own business. When i was in school i was all pissed off just like you, judging people and such. Stress will do that, but after school was done i slowly came to realize hey those girls i used to think were biotches with their fancy purses and dressed all skankishly weren't that bad, in fact most of them were really great people. You think people can't tell that you are judging them in your head? They can big time, and that only hold you back, it gives you no benefit at all. More than half of the stuff i have came from not being negative and that opened my eyes to the opportunities available in rough times. Like imagine, ur a recent grad in mech engineering, you get yourself a great job, divisional manager for one of the largest steel producers in the world, everything is going great, and then one day the plant manager calls you into his office and is like "sorry we have to let you go, 50 salary have to go and you are the newest guy so its ur turn". I was like WTF, as he was blabbing on about how sorry he is, i was thinking what i could do to turn my severance package into more $. So i opened my own business, and its going alright considering it just started 2 weeks ago. If i was miserable i would have just slouched at home on unemployment. From someone the same age as you, and who used to think like you, trust me cheer up, and stop judging people until you get to know them.

You still really don't know me. You are viewing being judgmental as being a negative thing. "When i was in school i was all pissed off just like you"..."after school was done i slowly came to realize hey those girls i used to think were biotches with their fancy purses and dressed all skankishly weren't that bad". Sorry, you aren't connecting with me on those lines. When I say that I believe someone is shallow I hold it as a fact. Many people love being shallow. It is only society that has made "shallow" such a derogatory term... it is also society that has made the term "ignorance" such a derogatory term. If I judge someone as ignorant and shallow, it probably comes off as offensive. But to me it isn't, I am ignorant of many many things automotive, but I also recognize that ignorance is nothing compared to most people in society. Another thing about me, I get great joy out of arguing, most of the time I am typing these comment I have a grin on my face. So I am happy, and I won't stop judging people/things because without judging you hold no personal opinion, you merely reflect opinions of others. And that to me is the greatest form of ignorance.

joey, this car is amazing!!

thought you got banned.

Who is comparing this car with the Zonda F or R, you got a complete startgrid of GT2, with the price of those 2 cars... Like i said this car is made to take the ring bestlap, and it will do it, you'll see

Joe Limon is a punk and could NEVER afford a Porsche. Plus, he is only 15 years old.