SSC Ultimate Aero EV Further Details Revealed
All-electric supercar moves closer to production
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awe, no 5 year charge? or at least under continuous use that is...
January 22, 2009 4:17 pm
I have alot of Faith in SSC, they're a promising company and it SHOULD be even smaller companies like this working on "green technologies", it will only serve to further the tech in hand with large Manufacturers.
January 22, 2009 6:26 pm
Our optimism behind the technology SSC are touting is not founded in reality, but rather our fear of the alternative -- that is, what would happen to our society if Li-Ion technology is not advancing in the hasty manner we need it to. This fear is quickly rendering skeptics of electric cars into enemies of liberty. The truth is, electric locomotion is not the future -- it is an intermediate step between our current obsolete technology and tomorrow's universally acceptable applicable solution. EVs are asking us to redefine the car; to step backwards; to suffer from less practical range, less driving theatre, and a heavy reliance on staying within urban limits. This is not the future, and I am not a monster for refusing to believe the rubbish SSC are spewing.
January 22, 2009 7:07 pm
Well I agree that the claims SSC is making are rather unbelievable. I think that no matter which way you slice it EVs are the future and concievably not even just an intermidiate step between internal combustion engines and the next big thing. Even hydrogen vehicles can be considered EVs in that they use their hydrogen to power electric motors. Furthermore EVs need not have shorter ranges or less driving pleasure, they just do at the moment as todays batteries are simply no where near what is needed for an EV that rivals a modern car in terms of range and driving experience. However, that is not to say that higher performance betteries that are lighter than the ones we use today are not achievable as there has simbly been no need for them to date. Electric motors are already outperforming internal combustion motors now we just need to have a viable light weight energy storage system to power them.
-WVU Formula Lightning mechanical head-
January 22, 2009 9:22 pm
I agree, absolutely; we can make batteries with better range, that are lighter, and that satisfy all of the developed world's driving needs. Though I should clarify, I am talking about plug-in EVs. My problem is not with electric motors (because they are, in every quantifiable way, better than internal combustion engines), but rather with the logistical challenges of energy distribution facing the technology. I am hesitant to praise plug-in EVs as the future industry standard. The only acceptable personal transportation solution should be as easily applicable in major urban centres as they are in rural areas, places without access to cheap, reliable electricity. That is why I am a firm hydrogen supporter.
January 23, 2009 12:21 am
I'm just going to jump in here and back Bremen_Koenigsegg up and say that hydrogen is the way of the future - more specifically, hydrogen fuel cells. For all I don't like to quote Top Gear, in his test of the FCX James May raised a very good point: with internal combustion engines, you drive as far as you like, fill it up with fuel at a station in a matter of a couple of minutes, then drive some more. That's exactly how a hydrogen fuel cell works - drive, put more hydrogen in it, and keep driving, not drive it a very certain amount of distance then charge it overnight like EV. Like he said, the reason it's a viable option for the future is because it is exactly like the practice we have in the present; no lifestyle change is needed.
Another good point raised in that test by Jay Leno was hydrogen would do for internal combustion what internal combustion did for the horse - make it obsolete as a form of transport and turn it into a form of recreation and appreciation for motoring enthusiasts.
January 23, 2009 3:18 am
your/Jay's analogy is horribly flawed. The only way it would be accurate is if horses farted gasoline... hydrogen is an energy storage method not a fuel...
January 23, 2009 2:58 pm
Again, we should be funding new technologies like this vs bailing out old school Detroit 3.
January 22, 2009 8:45 pm
I read something interesting about SSC - a man in... I think the US bought an Ultimate Aero, expecting to enjoy it's mountain of horsepower. To show off, he dropped it on a dyno at a motor show or something, to find it produced about 350hp, not the acclaimed 1000+. He's suing SSC, obviously, but I just thought that raised an interesting point about cars from small brands...
January 23, 2009 3:22 am
Can you provide proof of the source as to the statement that you've just made Lucifa?
January 23, 2009 12:06 pm
oh no that's just something i read on another site or something. dunno how authentic it is.
January 23, 2009 9:02 pm
Rule number 1 in school, don't believe everything you read, Humans are the worst liars of any race we previously know of.
January 24, 2009 1:33 am
Erm I'm not great with physics or anything but I do know some basics about battery technology and rudimentry mathematics behind basic charging. I dont see how it is possible for a battery of that capacity for the required range to be charge in 10 minutes. You'll definately need a specialised charging outlet to supply the amperage and the current would be extremely and I mean really extremely huge. In simple maths if the car had a 110 v battery with, lets just say, only 60 amphere hours worth of capacity.... and those are pathetic figures for the amount of power and range they claim. Then to charge it in 10 minutes from a 110v power socket you need like... 360 amps of current.... 360 freaking amps... thats insane in wattage terms thats 39600watts.... correct me if my maths is wrong for it might be but I'm rather sure I'm in the ball park range with the numbers. Even negating any efficiency losses, 39600 watts out of a standard electric socket is nuts. Can a battery even take 360 amps..... Lion isnt doesnt really like high currents compared to the less capable and old tech nicad or nimh. Lipoly may be better at currents but 360 amps is a long stretch unless you have alot in parallel config.
January 23, 2009 2:57 pm
this is wrong again. like the challanger with lambo doors. god dami it...
January 24, 2009 8:28 pm
its nice but still like a fake lamborghini or something, ok, so its really really powerful but will it handle round corners like a lambo reventon, we'll have to wait and see
February 5, 2009 11:44 am
Aluraeo is absolutely right to question the fast charge capabilities of a 110v outlet. Standard outlets are rated at 15 amps. If you pull max current for 10 minutes, you will put 275 watt-hours (volts x amps x hours) of energy into the battery. That equates to about a mile of very conservative driving range in a very light electric vehicle (EV). The Aero would burn that much energy in 100 yards at full acceleration.
This is one of the unfortunate, almost criminal, problems those of us in the EV industry have to deal with... wild claims and unimaginable misinformation. Makes it almost impossible to educate and promote the alternative energy source we have available for transportation 24/7, coast to coast, right now, today. Electricity.
No - current battery technology will not allow you to have supercar performance in an EV for 200 miles (have you seen the changes in Tesla's claims?) No - long cross-country trips are not practical in a pure EV today. No - simple household of office circuits will not allow you to recharge in minutes. That oughta give the nay-sayers enough ammo for now!
What you CAN DO with an EV today is commute anywhere from 40 to 100 miles on a charge, depending on battery chemistry and size, and recharge it overnight. Double the range figures if you have the opportunity to charge at work. For the average driver, that accounts for 90% of your driving needs... going to work, shopping, going to dinner/movies, dropping the kids at soccer, visiting friends on the weekends, etc. And, you do all that at less than half the cost compared to a petroleum powered car.
Most families own more than one car. So keep one gas-burner for the rare times you need the range and make the other electric. You'll reach for the EV keys 9 times more often than the keys to the dinosaur-burner.
I can already hear it. "Yeah, but I want one car that'll do everything... go to work, take me to the Hamptons for summer vacation, AND make me feel like a rock star when I stand on the pedal!!!" If you can afford an Aero, you can easily afford an EV as a "second" car (even though you'll drive it more than the "male enhancement device").
Oh, yeah... hydrogen as the "fuel of the future." We're talking distant future. At the moment, we have no ready, economical source of hydrogen and no distribution infrastructure. We are at least a decade away. Once again, we DO have a nation-wide electrical grid that produces excess energy during off-peak hours... at night. The technology exists today to tap into that source in a practical way to serve a large portion of our transportation needs.
So go ahead and wait for the fuel of tomorrow... I'll be spending a third on my fuel and saving on maintenance and registration as well.
June 30, 2009 5:56 am









