Nissan GT-R SpecV Revealed
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still not a fan, but respect for what is undoubtedly a superb track weapon. just hope this time we actually hear a proper Ring time, instead of the fiasco with porsche last time...
January 8, 2009 8:39 am
Yes maybe now it will properly win over 911 Turbo...but remember this year also comes NEW 911 Turbo with at least 500hp...yes and we are back there ;)
But still I think that 911 GT2 is not endangered!
January 8, 2009 9:03 am
Wow, pretty expensive for what it provides :(
Importing one to Europe/US will make it more expensive than a 911 GT2...
January 8, 2009 9:56 am
The GT2 would eat this thing alive, the GT-R was over hyped quite a bit when it was first released, now after much testing and a few racing events where people took their own cars i have seen results where the GT-R has been beaten by a 997 GT3-RS, a bunch where it was beaten by the 996 GT2, and i won't even mention how many times it got beat by a Carrera GT. The entire thing was #1 It wasn't a production vehicle #2 It had a Bridgestone tire that is a semi-slick. Also they didn't do a full lap, cut out the 6 seconds where the pits are, Porsche does a full lap including the pit portion. Semi-slicks+6 seconds is about 16 seconds on the ring, which is 9:44 which is surprisingly is what the head engineer said the car should be able to do. The Porsches come with pretty crappy "racing" tires they come with sport road Micheline Pilot Sports, which in no way is close to the GT-R tires. Give the Porsche Turbo the same tires and it will spank the GT-R every time. Either way both are amazing cars regardless of which is faster, but this is too expensive IMO with dealer markups you will be looking at over 200k for this, not worth it IMO, get a GT2 or hold out for the R8-V10.
January 8, 2009 11:06 am
swifthead..what do you mean with " properly win over 911 turbo "....the gt - r kick the crap out of 911 turbo..and this spec v is going to be much more than a standard gt-r
January 8, 2009 11:12 am
radmeister..the gt2 would eat the spec v alive ? think again..the standard gt-r itself almost eat the crap out of gt2..and cut the bullsh*t about tires, ask porsche to put the same tires as the gt-r,it is not that hard, right..you have seen results where the gt-r has been beaten by 997 gt-3 rs ?the 997 gt3 rs is the hardcore of 997, you can't compare it with the gt-r, beaten by a 996 gt2? i have seen 996 gt2 beaten by gt-r a lot more..the gt-r is an awesome car and it already beaten the 911 turbo, but some people still crying out loud saying it wasn't a stock car...
January 8, 2009 11:24 am
The GT2 beat the GT-R already with the michelins on, like i said they count their laps differently, GM and Porsche do a full lap which ads 6sec, watch the videos and you can see in the GT-R video as it goes past the pits the time stops, on the ZR-1 and GT2 videos it does not. I can't believe you thing that the GT-R has some godly power to defy the laws of physics, the car is good but it's in now way even close to the GT3-RS or GT2 or Carrera GT.
January 8, 2009 11:38 am
On another note, do you think Porsche is stupid? I mean they have experience on the ring since it was first opened. Ontop of that they have some of the best LM and GT drivers at their disposal that have done 1000s of laps around that track. I will bet $ that Porsche went out and bought a few GT-Rs and ran them on the ring before making that statement. Also the GT-R beats the 911 turbo to 60mph by 0.2 sec, and that's again with the semi-slicks. Have you read any articles about what happened to people that tried repeatedly to get that 3.5sec to 60? Their tranny and diffs blew, 24,000$ gone. You would get 3.5sec if not better if u had semi-slicks on a Turbo and locked your diffs, but then you would blow them just like in the GT-R.
January 8, 2009 11:49 am
O!! M!! G!! its expensive but if it have more than 500hp ufff....and it looks very cool too
January 8, 2009 12:07 pm
..nope i don't want to call porche stupid at all..but nissan also bought a few 911 turbo as their benchmark..and gt-r engineer also have a lot of experience on the ring..do you think that was their first attempt on the ring ?and yes, they can't deny the law of physics, but they use it..they use the weight of the car ( surprise ), they use 0.28 cd, they use 20 inch rims, they use rear diferential..where did you have that semi slick comment ? they didn't use semi slick..
and for that tranny thing, wow a lot of porsche enthusiast saying that again and again and again.. but gt-r is not about 3.5 sec to 60, and the tranny CAN stand those immense power for a few shot..no one will use the traction control mode in every freakin green light...
January 8, 2009 12:10 pm
What do 20" rims have to do with a lap time around the ring? Can you tell me what 0.28cd means? Like do you even realize thats not CdA? The Cd value means nothing unless you know the cross sectional area of the car at it's largest point. And i guess RE070Rs are regular street tires in your books. You can believe whatever you want, I for one am very skeptical of the lap time they posted. For one most magazines have disqualified that time as a "stock" car lap time, I will wait until an independent test is done, and they fit the GT-R with the same tires as the 911 turbo. Until that day the 911 and C-GT are still king.
January 8, 2009 4:28 pm
..and yes i have seen the youtube video about blowing up the tranny..too much sugar to his head
January 8, 2009 12:12 pm
i'm not really a fan of the porsche OR the gt-r, so i could possibly be one of the few truly unbiased people to comment on this article, and my 2 cents is this:
this argument is pointless.
the fact is, nobody who buys either of these cars will notice the difference in the 0-62 time, let alone the Ring time. this is just another argument of the germany-ophiles against the japan-fanboys, another excuse for us all to say "german cars are pointlessly expensive just cos of the badge" or "japanese cars have no style, soul or charisma they're just machines". it's down to your own opinion about what you like so being nitpicky about the track times is rather pointless.
i will say this, though - amazing the GT-R may be, but the figures just don't add up; the nissan-posted time just seems a bit far-fetched, perhaps mainly because of the weight issue. you could counter this by saying that the GT-R's superb technology compensates for this, but there's only so much technology can do - give an SUV 900hp and the most sophisticated suspension in the world mated to enormous brembo ceramics and 350mm tires, it's still an SUV, it's still 2 tons and it still won't touch a mid engined supercar around the Ring.
and as for porsche being sore losers, maybe they just were. but it isn't often that an official ring time is disputed, and porsche must have known they'd take a lot of flak from the press, and the world's most successful sportscar maker doesn't just take risks like that unless they have the evidence to base it on.
phew, that took a while. thanks for reading! =)
January 8, 2009 1:55 pm
I finally got to see a GT-R while passing threw Oakland this past weekend. And while I'm wasn't particularly fond of it's styling after only seeing it only online, I must say that I was impressed when I finally got to see it in person. I pulled directly in back of the driver hoping to get a better glimpse of the front but he ended up going the other direction at the 580 split. Surprisingly, it looks slightly larger/wider in person; I'm going to have to say it was almost beautiful.
January 8, 2009 4:15 pm
Why are people slamming this car for it's 'weak' tranny? Aren't supercars supposed to break and cost ridiculous amounts of money to fix? I mean how pictures of ferraris have you guys seen lately with the engine on fire... brand new ferraris at that. Place a GT2 in that hands of an stupid driver and I think we can expect similar results. when it comes down to it, this car is outrageous.. as are the Porsche turbos.
January 8, 2009 5:18 pm
Over twice the price for a car that isn't anywhere near twice the car. This car won't beat a GT2 with a PDK installed. Remember GT2s until now have had a conventional manual transmission.
Porsche has been using PDK in race cars since 1985 so their system is fool proof too.
I like the GT-R but this car is a waste of money and not really much faster. You buy a GT-R with a comp reflash, 20inch rims and some carbon fibre if it matters to you and you save almost 100k easily.
This is so stupid its incredible. Its a nice car but VERY VERY VERY over-priced. Killing the original point of the GT-R. A cheap highly competitive sports car. This car isn't cheap and at its price point its not very competitive.
January 8, 2009 5:35 pm
Ya man I can't till the PDK is strapped on to this badboy and when that happens, I think this little competition will end. Nissan unfortunately will never be able to match PDK.
This version can easily be sold for and worth less, but Nissan is obviously trying to position this car next the GT2 and as stupid and ridiculous as that may sound, they'll make some $$ because of it.
January 8, 2009 6:02 pm
Iconic, thats the funny thing. The car WILL sell, specifically to Japanese customers who want to stand out.
Like you said though, it could have been sold for at least 40K less and they would still make very decent profit. They just wanted to compete with the GT2 in all ways. Just one problem, the GT-2 PDK hasn't been released and that will probably end this competition.
The Carerra S alone with PDK, is said to be 8 seconds faster around the ring which does make alot of true sense. I can only imagine the GT2.
January 8, 2009 6:16 pm
*Edit*- Nissan not matching isn't a bad thing but Porsche PIONEERED the dual clutch manual transmission. It would be hard for any body to compete with someone who designed, engineered and Perfected the transmission so long ago.
January 8, 2009 6:18 pm
Totally agree with ya buddy. Maybe matching might have been the wrong word, that will never happen. I was trying to make the point that they wont be able to duplicate PDK's robustness. I doubt PDK will fall apart after consecutively using launch control (which it can do). I'm pretty stoked about the fact that they offer it on the targa models now.
January 8, 2009 7:00 pm
I think everyone should wait and see what the performance figures are before making any argument about Porsche and the gt-r, stop crying about the pdk gearbox who really cares this is a gt-r article and for the gt2 being faster, well we will just have to wait and see wont we.
January 8, 2009 7:22 pm
Theres nothing to cry about the PDK. The PDK was designed a LONG time ago so its superior. No crying involved when you have superior tech. Unless Nissan is lying about power output, this car will get handed its rear end just a bit by the PDK GT2.
January 8, 2009 10:01 pm
I don't think anyone would be fool enough to believe Nissan's aim is to ridicule or overthrow Porsche's aura and heritage. The GT-R should be appreciated for what it is: an awesome and fairly priced sportscar, and Nissan should be cheered and saluted for having the balls to make and sell this kind of car, while Honda's being a pussy and focussing on soccer mom and tree huggers' crapboxes.
January 8, 2009 10:32 pm









