VIDEO: GM higlights the consequences of automakers collapse

GM puts out a video on the dire consequences if US automakers are left to collapse

By Alex Ricciuti
November 17, 2008 10:20 PM
Filed Under: American, Corporate/Financial, General Motors, Industry

When a corporation sets up a website and puts out a video to beg for a government bailout, you know they are desperate.

We've considered earlier whether the doomsday scenario that GM has posited in their appeals for aid to the US Congress and the Bush administration would actually occur should GM become insolvent. They claim that if they go down, they will take the rest of the industry and its suppliers with them, with hundred of thousands of job losses and a contraction of the GDP since the auto industry makes up about 2.3 percent of that. One thing you can be sure of is that they believe it themselves. Otherwise, they would wait for an Obama administration since the President-elect (along with the Democratic-controlled Congress) is in favor of the loan guarantees.

Some analysts believe that the US auto industry would be able to survive and be made up mostly of local suppliers funneling parts to foreign automakers manufacturing vehicles inside the United States. That may be true. But those foreign automakers have their own interests at heart and they won't care much for GM, Ford and Chrysler's employees, nor the unions that represent them since foreign automakers like to set up plants in the South with non-unionized work forces. And what about the thousands of businesses and jobs at risk at Big 3 dealerships?

About 100,000 automaker and supplier jobs have been lost in the US this year alone, accounting for 10 percent of total job losses for 2008.

And GM does make one argument in this video that is interesting.

The continued erosion of the US manufacturing base is an old story, since we all know how nearly everything available for purchase in the United States is made either in China/Pacific Rim (low-cost goods) or Europe (luxury goods). But the automotive industry still represents the core of US industrial might.

GM claims than in a nation security emergency the US would be dependent on foreign manufacturers to build heavy vehicles for the military.

That may be an exaggeration but it is obvious that if the big 3 are no longer around that the bulk of research and development for new products and technologies will be done outside of the US. And that is a big hit in itself to American industrial power.

 

Source: GM

Press Release (Click to expand)

From plants to parks. From dealerships to driveways. From gas stations to grocery stores. What happens in the automotive industry affects each and every one of us. In fact, the collapse of the U.S.-based auto industry wouldn't just impact the more than 239,000 Americans directly employed by the Big Three. One out of every 10 people in America is employed in a service that is related to the U.S. auto industry. If a plant closes, so does its suppliers, the local stores, the hot dog vendors, and the local restaurants. The effect would be devastating in ways of which you never have thought:

  • Nearly 3 million jobs would be lost in the first year alone - with another 2.5 million to follow over the next two years
  • Personal income in the United States would drop by more than $150.7 billion in the first year
  • The cost to local, state, and federal governments could reach $156.4 billion over three years in lost taxes, and unemployment and health care assistance
  • Domestic automobile production would more than likely fall to zero - even by international producers, due to supplier bankruptcies

The credit crisis that is affecting us all is wounding the U.S. auto industry in many different ways. Carmakers can't get loans to restructure and to produce new advanced technology vehicles. Suppliers and dealers can't get loans for routine business, and customers can't get loans for new cars.

 

Comments

madmax
November 17, 2008 11:13 PM
If you make crappy cars that are not selling you deserve bankrupt. This is lame. To go forward you must do right thing even if its hard.

john_doe
November 18, 2008 12:45 AM
the day GM dies, i think chinese car manufacturers have a legitimate chance to make it big.

Wickedated
November 17, 2008 11:35 PM
If loaning $25billion to the automakers was a good deal, dont you think private banks would be all over that opportunity? They arent, because banks know these companies are destined to collapse regardless. The problem is management- the same bad management that over compensates CEOs and pensioners, the same bad management that drove these companies to failure, and the same bad management that will remain in place if the taxpayers write these guys a check. Funny how BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai... none are declaring bankruptcy. This ad is greatly exagerated to inspire fear in the minds of taxpayers. Declaring bankruptcy does not mean 3 million jobs will be loss overnight. Operations will still continue, people still buy cars and people who own Ford, GM and Chrysler still need dealerships for parts, maintenance, etc. This is shameful.

allroad
November 17, 2008 11:55 PM
RIGHT ON! If you can't run your business properly and have some longterm growth plans vs. pumping out SUV's and trucks, don't come crying to the American taxpayer for a bailout when the sh$t hits the fan...let them fail and declare bankruptcy...we will survive. Get rid of the worthless CEO's who get fat checks for being failures.

RS5
November 17, 2008 11:35 PM
Poor GM; just while they were starting to get better. Hope they stay.

9TNine
November 17, 2008 11:43 PM
If they put the same effort into making cars, as they do making this video, perhaps they would make better cars?

9TNine
November 17, 2008 11:46 PM
On second thoughts... perhaps the US Government should nationalise it (as they say in England) then employ loads of Indians from India to run it.

I'd be very surprised if they did not achieve at least tenfold as much!

lucifa
November 18, 2008 1:24 AM
love the patriotic play on the american's vanity when it comes to being the world superpower. national security? why the hell would you bother when you can destroy the world ten times over sitting in the oval office? reading between the lines, i'd say the crux of this video is "if we go down, we give the crown of world superpower to china." and about bloody time, too.

gmfan09
November 18, 2008 2:02 AM
Dude how can you not see that GMs products have been getting drastically better and many are even class leading. I'm tried of these assumptions out of ignorance and assumptions. Not only did a GM car win North American car of the year but a GM car just won European Car of the year too. Its like you people expect things to change overnight. GET REAL!!!!

gmfan09
November 18, 2008 2:09 AM
That was directed at madmax and all you other people that need to get a clue. And remember its a loan not free cash. The U.S. Government made a profit out of bailing out Chrysler in the late 70s and early 80s. So really whats your objection. Oh thats right you pure hatred of American cars.

Wickedated
November 18, 2008 8:26 AM
First of all, GM products have been getting better, yes- for the last year or so!! Silverado? Yeah, that's what the world needs in times of increased oil prices- muscle cars and gas-guzzling trucks. Your screenname says it all, GMFAN, so arguing with you is clearly pointless. GM has 20+years of proven crap products, now they're feeling the heat. Chevy Volt? Guess what- it's a dollar short and a minute late. You're trying to argue that because GM has put out a couple of better cars the last 6 months or so, that they deserve a $25 billion hand-out. And don't think of this as a loan man, this is a hand out. When do you think GM will be profitable again to repay this "loan"? yeah, in 50 years... good luck collecting.

gmfan09
November 18, 2008 3:40 PM
Yea ok 50 years. Your ridiculous. Yeah I do like GM and why would you point out the Silverado? There will always be a need for work trucks so it would be dumb not to produce them. Its been longer than six months too chief. What I said is that this has happened before with Chrysler and it worked out well for every body. If you look at the products the GM is putting out now and the products that are in the pipeline you cant argue that they aren't far beyond what they have been in the past. Why would you look to the past to see whether or not they should get this LOAN (yes it is a loan get it right chief) instead of the future. GM has also make huge strides with the union that it has had to work with which BTW is a huge reason for their current condition. I'm sure most of you on this site don't care because you are obviously anti-American or not American so why would you. I wouldn't give a Sh*t if the European auto industry was in the crapper so I guess I understand a lot of the reasons why you'll are so ridiculously one sided on this side. for some reason ya'll are stuck on looking at the past to make a judgment instead of the present and the potential future. Yes if I saw that GM was on the same track that i was ten years ago and showed no signs of changing then I would not be defending them I would probably be saying the same as most of you all but that's just not the case is it.

eddie
November 18, 2008 3:58 AM
BMW, Honda, Toyota, etc. have great cars and trucks and can make a profit on both. GM can only make big profits on big trucks. With this bailout where is GM going to get the cars that people want to buy? Is everyone going to start buying cobalts and impalas to save the company. They do not have a product line to let them survive. Repeat of the 70s.

cadillac98
November 19, 2008 1:04 AM
Yes, I forgot. GM only builds two cars. Try again. They build more vehicles than any other company that achieve better than 30 mpg. Once again, do some reserch before you resort to "conventional wisdom".

eddie
November 18, 2008 4:09 AM
Why is it the government has always had to mandate changes in US cars. The government had to mandate seatbelts,airbags, and now Electronic stability control when foreign manufacturers had them in place for years. GM and Ford even up to last month refuse to change roof strenght standards. How about the Sebring, Corvette, Mustang without rollbars. If GM would make the safest cars with the best warranty and really make some headwind in MPG they may have a chance. US car companies have become followers and not leaders and it looks like GM spent all its money on that new China factory. Southern USA car manufacturers use State loans not the proposed Federal loan of the North Detroit car companies.(Kia, BMW, Honda,Toyota etc.)

MTC
November 18, 2008 12:27 PM
GM are really hoping the government will save them, not if you keep on making rubbish (rubbish not include Corvette C6, Z06, ZR1..., Cadillac CTS, Opel, Holden and Vauxhall)

abugatti
November 18, 2008 12:46 PM
everyone knows that all big3 deserves bankruptcy! oh yes they make some good cars, but lots of crap cars too!! even Korean cars are better than American cars these days!! nevertheless, if they all bankrupt, US economy will suffer so much more than right now for many many years. i'll say give them the money only if they will completely change their manegement system and cut all the health care benefits.

gmfan09
November 18, 2008 3:44 PM
They are changing health care benefits check it out. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/14/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/

I urge you all to just look at the facts he says and not the fact that he is an analyst based out of Detroit. You can dispute the opinion but you can dispute the facts.

Schizo0223
November 18, 2008 6:59 PM
I think everyone who is a car fan would say they saw this coming. Except for a few cars in the domestic GM line-up they really had unappealing cars. This compounded with dealing with labor unions that is hostile to the business just didn't help them one bit. I say help these bastards out with a loan, but make it stick with some drastic conditions that requires down-sizing the business portfolio (get the f*ck out of the mortgage business which is probably bogging them down big time right now as well!) Change all the execs that obviously weren't doing a good job! Cut down the number of brands that they have to market! The amount saved from trimming marketing and development costs by trimming the brands would be significan as well.

cadillac98
November 18, 2008 7:24 PM
I am very tired of seeing, hearing and reading the same old excuses. Why is every body always so quick to point out trucks? GM has been producing 30 mpg vehicles for a lot longer than six months. It may be their fault that they haven't shoved it in your faces in advertising, but they have had these vehicles for decades. Yes they sell a lot of trucks, because that's what people in the U.S. have WANTED. It's marketing. Why would they produce an over abundance of vehicles that people in the U.S. don't want? It took fuel prices drastically increasing for people here to change their thought process. Just for reference, there have been many vehicles produced by GM that achieve good fuel economy, from the mid 1980's, and the 90's. It's nothing new, except obtuse people need to do their research before they go spouting off at the mouth.

gmfan09
November 18, 2008 8:04 PM
Exactly. And the japanese auto makers make all the same size trucks and suvs the only difference is that the American companies made more appealing ones that more people wanted to buy. How are you going to say that bad management?

cadillac98
November 18, 2008 9:18 PM
On top of that, the new Toyota Tundra gets worse fuel economy than any of the comparable Big Three trucks. Isn't it a wonder that when GM launched their 2007 trucks in 2006, Toyota launched the Tundra in 2008? It's because they knew that EPA fuel economy ratings were more strict for 2008, so they launched it as a 2007 to enjoy slightly better (but still bad) fuel economy ratings for one year.

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