BMW CS Concept Based Production Version Officially Cancelled!!

BMW CS Concept

Potential Panamera competitor axed

By Christopher Jackson
November 4, 2008 7:07 PM
Filed Under: BMW, Corporate/Financial, German

Looks like BMW won't be fielding a Porsche Panamera competitor after all. The CS Concept, planned as a new flagship to replace the 8-Series, has officially been cancelled. Citing product and project reviews in the face of the current financial crisis in Europe and the United States, BMW's CEO Norbert Reithofer announced that the concept is officially a no-go. BMW plans to put its resources toward future technology, its EfficientDynamics and project i programs.

It's a disappointing move for BMW fans, but a prudent one. The current market for super-sedans is limited and likely to become more so if the economic situation continues to get worse. Though a financial upturn could see renewed consideration for the CS Concept, BMW was mute on the chances of this happening.

Source: BMW via bmwtoday.de via bmwblog

Comments

MadMaTTer
November 4, 2008 7:18 PM
too bad, this wouldve killed the panamera

carcrazy1234
November 5, 2008 1:42 AM
i second that haha. one HUGE thing it beats it on is the LOOK of the car. the look of this car overcomes the porsche BADGE on the porsche. that's sad

_M7_
November 4, 2008 7:30 PM
thnk for dont put that thing on the road...its ugly as the panamera pice of sh**

need4speed
November 4, 2008 7:31 PM
Although this particular concept wont move forward, many of its styling cues shall.

DerCarFreak
November 4, 2008 7:43 PM
"thnk for dont put that thing on the road...its ugly as the panamera pice of sh**"

This is the smartest comment I've ever read.

ekelly17
November 4, 2008 8:30 PM
Yet the green light as been given for the production of the X1, X2, X4 and the F Series!! Its a shame all these models cannot be traded for a future 8 Series.

bernardo
November 4, 2008 8:37 PM
Couldn't agree more.Coldn't see a worst move from BMW.The 4 door-coupe market is rising more and more everyday, and the SUV market will likely to go downhill, and its already doing...and yet, BMW is flooding their lineup with useless/ugly/retarded SUV's.

shaahinmt
November 5, 2008 12:24 AM
well, we cant all get what we want mate, if there is going to be a BMW in the future it better be a pointless one, than not being at all (going bust).

afterace2
November 4, 2008 8:33 PM
Yeah, bmw...build even more stupid suvs instead. What a let down.

dmanero
November 4, 2008 8:47 PM
Can not say I sad about this. This design was probablt one of the least favourites on my list.

Xenicide
November 4, 2008 9:03 PM
This design is neat and new. It's refreshing, and I hope in the near future that they will give this concept a go.

burana800
November 4, 2008 9:13 PM
Thank you BMW not making the world uglier place. Maybe they could take the current 7 -series out of production too LOL

Tuner_Mad
November 4, 2008 9:19 PM
Aww how sad. Now, lets look at the upcomming Aston Martin Rapide!

DieselDog
November 4, 2008 9:19 PM
I agree that the move is a prudent one. Perhaps BMW will concentrate more on their core products such as final development of the replacement for the 5-series sedan and touring. Making those core products the best possible vehicles while giving great consideration for overall value may help BMW weather the financial storm better than other luxury manufacturers.

Motor_Yakuza
November 4, 2008 9:42 PM
One of the few BMW designes i liked, boo

GPKH
November 4, 2008 11:38 PM
Don't worry, it is good that they did bring the concept out. At least it shows that BMW is still king. It just doesn;t make business sense to bring this monster out, even if it is so drop dead gorgeous, unlike the ugly CLS. I just want to vomit when I see the CLS: normally driven by fat old men, who thinks that they are "cool" in a big Merc, where in fact the car is as ugly as hell. BMW is the best premium brand and to be the best doesnt mean that you have to beat every other car of the other premium brands. Take for example, audi is making huge loses on the overhyped R8. They thought that demand was going to be high and used stupid advertising phrases like R8 is the Audi that takes the longest time to produce - so what? It just shows inefficiency nd lack of skills and techno. People have finally realised that the R8 is a want to be, copied what BMW did successfully 30 years ago with the M1 and wants to claim victory, please. afterall, Audi i still a genuine VW - whatever tht means to you.

xenomorph
November 5, 2008 12:51 PM
Oh dear, once again you have soiled yourself, that must have taken your full two brain cells to make up. I love the fact that BMW is "still the king" for producing a concept and not a production car. And that "old fat men" are the only ones who drive CLS's. They are a really great car in terms of styling but you wouldn't be able to tell that. After all, you think that the 7 series is the most beautiful car in the world. The R8 is a phenomenal success as well just so you know. There is a two year waiting list on them. One of the reasons they limit production is to keep exclusivity up. Something you wouldn't know anything about though. And comparing it to an M1 is just plain stupid (which suits you perfectly). Don't mind the fact that there have been sports cars around well before the M1, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, ever heard of them?

GPKH
November 5, 2008 5:48 PM
xenomorph, WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE AGAINST ME? I WOULD APPRECIATE MORE IF YOU COULD JUST WAKE UP AND REALISE THAT BMW IS THE BEST, IT IS NO.1 AND NOT VW'S AUDI'S IMAGINARY POSITION IN THE PREMIUM MARKET.

I don't think that the 7 Series is the best looking car. However it is much better looking than the S and A8 i.e. best looking in its class. The R8 looks like a rat when compared to Aston and the M1 30 years ago (by the way, just in case other Audi drivers think rats are good looking just because it is associated with Audi, most people on earth do not). If you call the CLS beautiful, then you're not looking at it properly or blind. It is huge, yes, but by no means is it attractive! It is ugly as hell. Look at the front and look at the back. (VOMIT!)

To your R8 story: Do you really think that they cannot produce more than demand? Wake up, I have friends in the Audi Group and is extremely close to the Board of Management (by the way, they like BMWs more but it is just that Audi pays them much better AND BMW is cutting jobs - only bad thing), the reason why thy limit production is not because they cannot produce more, they have huge spare capacity. But if they produce more, they won;t be able to charge such a high price on the car! By the way, do you know what their margin on one unit is? Well last year the contribution margin per unit sold was about 68%. These are margins that you'd expect from Porsche and Lambo. But how did Audi manage to achieve that? Well, the supply less and raise artificial excess demand. Also, where do you come up with the figures of 2 years waiting list? It is a completely made up number. Waiting time depends on the number of units allocated for the specific country and at the moment, Audi is able to produce what is demanded. And just for the record, it doesn't take 2 years to build an R8. Maybe your dealership that you enquired at couldn't sell you an R8 and they were not allocated 1 or not compliant to sell that's why they made up the story of 2 years. It takes max a few months built to order. Another interesting factor about the 2 years story is that they make the product seem as rare as possible to milk most cash out of the customer. Most customers who say they ordered will get their R8 within a few months, but guess what, the dealers will just say that here's one that someone didn;t wan and this is the chance in your life to buy it now (i.e. you won't get it at the best price) - VW is a cash cow, milking customers that are not aware of their marketing tricks.

I came acorss some terms that sum up the drivers and owners of the different brands: just wanted to share with you:

As for Audi: "All of Us Desire Idiots" - shown by their idiotic behavior of chosing a VW standard car (AUDI) but paying full premium prices - "stupid idiots" Merc: "My Era Remains Continuous" - signally people who are a the end of their roads, holding onto thier desire for their legacy and times to continue into their future.

xenomorph
November 10, 2008 2:08 PM
Really I can only feel sorry for someone who is so ignorant and isecure. If you really believe BMW is the best then you shouldn't be worried about competition. Its ok to be worried though, Mercedes and Audi are really leaving BMW behind in terms of styling, build quality and performance. Just look at the C63 for example; it gives the M3 a hard time just as the RS4 does. And I could only laugh at your pathetic attempts to compare the R8 to the ugly M1 fossil. You've shown that you’re not at the basic standard of intellect over the past few weeks, but claiming that the M1 has better styling than the R8 is just pathetic. As I said before it has been crowned world performance car and world design car of the year (something that BMW has yet to achieve). The facts stand for themselves and thankfully peasants like yourself aren’t part of the viewing board. You really are a tragic creature. You are not even worthy of BMW; you are just a fanatical pig who worships something they will never have.

jalmonte91
November 4, 2008 9:53 PM
Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!! Why BMW, why. This car would've been the best looking car ever made. I was saving for the down payment, now I'm going to have to settle for a s63

GPKH
November 4, 2008 11:29 PM
Jealousy makes you nasty, nasty makes you fat, fat makes you ugly - that's what you are tying to tell everyone about yourself. Just to wake you up: BMW is the No.1 Premuim car company in the world. It sells most cars (i.e. most people admire their futuristic designs, innovative tech and all the good driving dynamics that makes BMW the car that the world cannot live withut. BTW, do you call the ugly audi TT, A4, A3 something that's beautiful? If so, you just have bad taste like the minority in this world that's buying audi (a VW product)

GPKH
November 4, 2008 11:32 PM
Why would you suddenly change from a BMW to a Mercedes? They are two different brands and if you are a BMw person, how can you change just like that to another "older" brand

xenomorph
November 5, 2008 12:56 PM
I wonder why people change to Audi's, Bentley's, Lamborghini's and Porsche's, after all, they are just a VW product. Whats wrong with them BMW is the "king". Isn't that right GPKH, nothing else comes close.

GPKH
November 5, 2008 5:55 PM
Most of them change because they are so used to BMW and wanted a change. But as soon as they drive another car, they jump immediately back to BMW becasue they know it's the best. Exceot for those who have driven other premium cars that's not BMW but is too scared to experience a BMW, hence ignornace as they are scared they will have a change of heart and cannot live with the guilt of being disloyal. Understandable human nature

Audinator
November 7, 2008 5:59 AM
GO TO HELL GPKH!!! AGAIN WITH YOUR STUPID FACTS AND COMMENTS!!!

GPKH
November 7, 2008 2:32 PM
You see,you are exactly the type of person that I am talking about. IGNORANT. But at least I talk the truth and if you cannot bear it, maybe Audi is not for you.

xenomorph
November 10, 2008 2:22 PM
Seriously, after reading the last few comments there, I think you need psychiatric treatment of some description. There is just no other way to describe your comments other than psychotic. I wonder if there have been any escapees from any mental hospitals recently.

Freude120
November 4, 2008 11:19 PM
Jealousy makes you nasty, nasty makes you fat, fat makes you ugly - that's what you are tying to tell everyone about yourself. Just to wake you up: BMw is the No.1 Premuim car company in the world. It sells most cars (i.e.) most people admire their futuristic designs, innovative tech and all the good driving dynamics that makes BMW the car that the world cannot live withut. BTW, do you call the ugly audi TT, A4, A3 something that's beautiful? If so, you just have bad taste like the minority in this world that's buying audi (a VW product)

GPKH
November 4, 2008 11:27 PM
Jealousy makes you nasty, nasty makes you fat, fat makes you ugly - that's what you are tying to tell everyone about yourself. Just to wake you up: BMw is the No.1 Premuim car company in the world. It sells most cars (i.e.) most people admire their futuristic designs, innovative tech and all the good driving dynamics that makes BMW the car that the world cannot live withut. BTW, do you call the ugly audi TT, A4, A3 something that's beautiful? If so, you just have bad taste like the minority in this world that's buying audi (a VW product)

out4ride
November 5, 2008 12:08 AM
Gpkh. U are the biggest moran on this forum. Evry post of yours is the same. Bmw #1 VW sucks. We all know they are #1(the ultimate driving machine). My cousine worked for bmw and he loves it but he couldn't believe they had brand new Porsche cayenne stripped to pieces and every single part numbered. Look closely at the front looks like cayenne doesn't not. Bmw dropped their amaizing transmision and now they will have VW dsg idea in the cars. Bmw lost over 20% last month in sales becouse they are over priced and should be on Audi's level, they offer more for the money. Now your turn ripp it so I can lough at u. A.s.

kevoluetion
November 5, 2008 4:00 AM
I second that, GPHK has no respect whatsoever...even competitors respect one another. Its a shame CS concept is not coming out to compete.

GPKH
November 5, 2008 6:00 PM
Compete with what. R8's objective was to up the Audi image and not to make money. They achieved that. BMW's objective is now to boost profitability, not to up its image as it is already the highest. So it makes no sense to build a car to compete against the likes of CLS just for competition sake.

shaahinmt
November 5, 2008 12:18 AM
i hope BMW will get back on the line of fire and make good cars again, after all its one of the only auto manufacturers that pay attention to handling, preposition and build quality. they were going to add style to their cars too, but it would appear that they see saving their ass is more important and they r wont risk their future and i don't blame them; i am sad very sad but i don't blame their wise (stupid) decision.

GPKH
November 5, 2008 6:05 PM
I like your comment. Beautifully put together. Yes, a business must make money. But it must also make dreams come true. Peopl who are young now must look up to a car and say I want to drive that brand's car. And in order to do that, they need to bring out more concepts, more amazing vehicles, put more of their vehicles in movies. Audi has been doin that all along, leading to most graduates in Germany wanting to work for Audi and not BMW (previously) - this is a huge blow for BMW and I hope Management will realise that. BMw must make more cars (even if it's just concepts) that will blow people's minds away, cars that kids will put a poster of on their walls and create dreams of ownership in future. That's how a loyal customer base is first created. I think BMW is lacking in that department and maybe it is to do with their strategy of cutting costs

Uptohere
November 5, 2008 12:23 AM
Not BMW's best work so I'm glad they're not going ahead with it. Viva Aston Martin Rapidea and Audi A7!

darzav
November 5, 2008 4:48 AM
Shame. There is a huge market for this car. In fact. I wanted one. Oh well.

GPKH
November 5, 2008 6:07 PM
Clearly not enough to cover costs when it is a BMW. If it was an Audi, well, maybe because they'd just get the parts from a Polo or Golf and charge you a fortune. BMW is decent andwill not do that. What you get in a BMW is genuine BMW and that's that. True and honest.

politz
November 5, 2008 5:05 AM
sad sad sad.

at least bmw won't have the chance to come up with another ridiculous niche. what would the bavarian folks call this sedan? a sports-hardtop-cabrio-three-body-minivan-four-door-coupe-crossover-vehicle?

now THAT sounds smart.

GPKH
November 5, 2008 6:09 PM
At least it's not cut and pasted designs from all other cars such as Audi copying BMW's footsteps in the X3 market, copying BMW designs, copying BMW tech, copying Mazda's LED lights and using VW stuff

Airbag
November 5, 2008 7:39 AM
Someone didn't do their market research then.

wisp
November 5, 2008 8:22 AM
I'm a BMW fan but this has got to stop. First the M3 CSL and now the CS concept. BMW is a dead cow - the CEO should resign for putting brakes on what has always driven BMW. No wonder they are being trumped by Audi on design and reaching the market. I am ashamed and angry at Beemer.

MTC
November 5, 2008 10:20 AM
They finally realize how much bs they made over these couple of years.

Just go and make the M3 CSL instead

alpacino01
November 5, 2008 10:48 AM
Stupid decision. I think that BMW have to produce this modell because he need to reconfirm his best position on the market with her best sport modells It's a big deception...

The_woo_factor
November 5, 2008 11:04 AM
I think the concept is cool. I believe they did make the right choice by not putting this car in production. BMW should focus on their bread-and-butter cars to make the brand more profitable!

GPHK, please keep your comments to yourself. All your comments are the same.

Freude120
November 6, 2008 5:28 PM
That just shows you how ignorant Audi people are. They just don't get it. No wonder they are always with this VW brand. Shame... a bunch of....

xenomorph
November 10, 2008 2:14 PM
Looks like gpkh has made himself a second account. Its within its pathetic nature to do so. After all, who else could carry his signature of ignorance, stupidity and uncultured futility?

jpm
November 5, 2008 12:46 PM
Genuinely gutted that this won't make production, but then it would've been toned down I suppose..

Loved the look of this concept....

wisp
November 5, 2008 1:16 PM
I see nothing in GPHK's comments. He protects what he loves the most and it is BMW. What i find wrong and stupid is people who castigate him whenever he protects his brand coz they too protect the Audi brand - now don't you Xeno whatever and Kevo. YOu also go flat out protecting Audi even on issues that this forum sees as not "cool". So what makes you any different to GPHK?

xenomorph
November 10, 2008 2:32 PM
Well, maybe because I don't post absolute garbage, made up from an innacurate opinion. I base my judgement on facts not rubbish. If you think gpkh is normal then really I am worried. Anyone with such a blind, brash, retarded ideology is a worry no matter what they support. He's like a fanatical Muslim terrorist of the automotive world.

politz
November 5, 2008 5:33 PM
concept looks awesome and all, but truly, that is not what bmw needs right now in terms of profitability. though FOUR suvs isn't either, but go figure.

benz_man
November 5, 2008 10:48 PM
Its very sad to see this work of art be canceled. After the flacid design of the current 7, I was anticipating the CS release to really show what BMW design can do. Although this is the correct business decision, true autophiles will weep silently for the rest of the year.

The_woo_factor
November 6, 2008 10:11 AM
They should use some of these design cues in the upcoming BMWs. Inject excitement back to the brand.

The_woo_factor
November 6, 2008 10:13 AM
Good to see how passionate people are with the cars. How come there are NO MERC fans to say their cars reign supreme???? Always Audi vs BMW...... Frankly, the conversations are ALL THE BLOODY SAME!

Uptohere
November 7, 2008 2:45 AM
At the moment I think M-B and Audi are the companies with the most momentum and the most progressive designs. BMW needs to re-focus and stick to what made it successful to begin with. Audi is in the best shape financially in part due to the low number of SUV's it has coming back in off of lease. So I think that it is M-B and Audi that are somewhat neck and neck with BMW third (third also meaning the most hard work ahead of them in this economy).

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