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WCF Redesign 2008
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This Sucks!
October 29, 2008 8:14 pm
 Motor_Yakuza Motor_Yakuza
Hmmm, formula 1 it's kinda boring right now, u guys should turn ur eyes to WTCC, FIA GT and and Japan's SuperGT championship that it's real racing, oh and bigger fonts for the names of the guys who send comments will be nice, like someone said it's a lil' bit hard to see who is the author of the comment, keep the good work
October 29, 2008 8:14 pm
 AmazingJerry AmazingJerry
F1 is just as active in the off season as during. Congrats on the new layout. I like it.
October 29, 2008 8:37 pm
 carcrazy1234 carcrazy1234
umm please WCF... PLEASE redesign the comments section... hard to see the commentors names... and its kinda hard to find ur own comment when theres like 35 comments on one picture... and also... when we click on pictures to view seperately... the ads are on the top of the picture... and it gets annoying :P... please put those UNDER the picture :D:D Thanks
October 29, 2008 8:49 pm
 deliverinsanity deliverinsanity
The main problem with the new layout is... the unbelievable amount of advertising! I know, you have to support the website somehow, but really this is a bit over the top. I suddenly don't like WCF as much as I used to.
October 29, 2008 9:07 pm
 jwil6902 jwil6902
I just use the AdBlock Plus plugin for Firefox to block all the crappy adverts that WCF throws onto every page. It works wonders in cleaning up their poor design so I can focus on the news. A tip to WCF: I wouldn't do that if you didn't overload EVERY damn page with advertising. If your click through rates are low, then it might be from your users going to extremes to avoid your advertising.
October 29, 2008 9:18 pm
 carcrazy1234 carcrazy1234
just use firefox with the Ad Block Plus addon hahah... what a weak complain... legit, but still weak :P!!! haha
October 29, 2008 9:18 pm
 Joe_Limon Joe_Limon
I agree with the comments, the user names are really inconveniently placed. Also, ad between comments is sad. I thought the random word links on the old design were bad, but that takes the cake. Oh, and if you are updating... how about some edit functions on the comments?
October 29, 2008 10:43 pm
 foose1397 foose1397
WCF..I know most people have to get used to anything new however this is a poor choice of updates. Lower contrast, more advertising and less direct links to information on the home page. Also im disappointed in the large boring logo you chose to add to your banner. Sorry WCF...for real car fans isn't about the glitch its about the stories and access to them.
October 29, 2008 9:30 pm
 foose1397 foose1397
ohh...and im impressed that you can squeeze an ad between comments, sad really sad
October 29, 2008 9:31 pm
 BabyMilo BabyMilo
hmm i dont know what i think, i like some parts of it but im not sure about the others, like putting an add in the middle of comments thats bad, i like the poll idea... wait! were is the reply buttons?? that is bad and there should also be an edit coment. becuase i live in australia i hope that WCF is abit quicker to load becuase the old one took abit of time. (and ive got pretty good internet for australia)
October 29, 2008 10:17 pm
 coopergt coopergt
wow, not like it used to be and all those ads, this looks like a cash cow now rather than a great site it used to be.
October 29, 2008 11:37 pm
 Kepe Kepe
Oh dear..! I just had to disable ad-block plus and check out the new site. It looks like it's all ads, and then a little something (your stories etc.) squeezed in between them. Why only four headlines on the top of the front page? Because there's now an ad taking the space of the two headlines that used to be there. This is not the way you should go when trying to improve the site. What you've actually done here is you've just made more space for even more ads. And I'm amazed that with all these changes, we still don't have an edit button so that we could edit or remove our comments! I liked the old WCF better.
October 29, 2008 11:46 pm
 Kepe Kepe
Oh. I just did some testing. I have a 2048/2048 kbps Internet connection and I'm from Finland. It takes 0,6 seconds to load the front page with ad-block plus enabled. Without ad-block, it takes 3,3 seconds! 0,6 seconds translates roughly to 100-150 kB. 3,3 seconds is more than 500 kB. That doesn't sounds too bad actually, but when you think that some people still (have to) use a dial-up connection, there's a huge difference in the time it takes to load the page with or without the ads. This is not good. And this is exactly why I use ad-block! It saves bandwidth and my nerves as there are no stupid ads everywhere.
October 30, 2008 12:01 am
 Kepe Kepe
I did some more testing by loading the front page about 20 times with and without the ads. It took 0,5 to 0,9 seconds to load the front page without ads (0,6 seconds being the average). With the ads, it took 3,3 to 9,4 seconds with an average of 4,5 seconds. I got the 9+ seconds result when it took some time for some ad server to respond before anything else on the front page could even be loaded. This is sad... I used to like WCF.
October 30, 2008 12:15 am
 BabyMilo BabyMilo
i did some testing to and i only get 1126kbps and it took 35 seconds to load the main page and 42sec+! to load the main page on my wirless, and becuase i mainly use my wireless this is very annoying WCF
October 30, 2008 5:19 am
 BrianWCF BrianWCF
Hi Everyone, we absolutely can appreciate your disdain for the ads. If we could, we would gladly leave them out, but this is how we stay alive and provide WCF at no cost to you the readers. Please keep in mind the number of ads units has stayed the same as the previous design. They have only been moved around in the layout. Therefore, the ad blindness you have developed over time has worn off and you see the ads again. As a result, they feel like they're in your face and too obtrusive. Please keep the comments coming in. Nothing is written in stone, and we will continue to make adjustments such as clearer commenter user names.
October 30, 2008 5:04 am
 jwil6902 jwil6902
Uhm...bullshit. There are hundreds of other free blogs on the internet that don't have the ungodly avalanche of advertising that WCF has. You want all this advertising there because it more advertising = more profit for you. Don't play it off like you're doing us a favor.
October 30, 2008 9:39 am
 BrianWCF BrianWCF
jwil6902, your reply is quite unfair. Can you give me some examples of advert free blogs that are comparable in content and size to WCF - particularly non Wordpress or Blogger sites that don't pay for server infrastructure? Just want to make sure I understand you standard of measurement.
October 30, 2008 11:50 am
 foose1397 foose1397
Brian...First i commend that your interacting to the feed s, nice to see. Thank you for that As for ads. I understand that you must have these to have your website survive. However i think it is more the placement and execution of them within the website. The size of the left and right bars are quiet large and my biggest issue is the reduction of space that is caused by ads, latest photos (which i see on the home page once prob don't need to see it 20 times), and "top stories" on the right. Also WCF should have a committed logo, the last one was better and took up much less space. The articles are key and there size and of course it is all perception
October 30, 2008 12:02 pm
 BrianWCF BrianWCF
Foose1397, I appreciate your comments. Regarding what you said about ad placements - that's exactly the dilema that not only WCF faces but every small site faces (that doesn't have a professional sales force or conglomerate media company behind them). If the ads are positioned poorly, they perform poorly resulting in less earnings. The past year has been a very volatile year for us - almost to the point of extinction. Therefore, we have been more strategic with the placement of the ads as a means of survival, not getting rich. It's a doubled edged sword that we have to balance on. The objective with the "Latest photo albums" widget and "Top 20 stories" is to give readers more options. 70% of our traffic does not arrive to WCF through the main page. Therefore, we want visitors to be able to access all major areas of the site from anywhere. Then, they don't have to keep running back to the front page to see what else WCF has to offer. I agree, the WCF brand needs a lot of work.
October 30, 2008 12:57 pm
 Bristol411S3 Bristol411S3
New site looks better on an iPhone though. And hurrrah to the F1 daily news updates!
October 30, 2008 5:08 am
 Tuner_Mad Tuner_Mad
Gah!! Too many adverters! Nice overall though.
October 30, 2008 5:30 am
 clinton clinton
great site, keep up the good work.
October 30, 2008 6:19 am
 AG4 AG4
The page on the Next-Generation BMW 6 Series is not loading properly, I can't see the article and images.
October 30, 2008 7:35 am
 AfterDawn AfterDawn
There wouldn't be so much disdain for the Ads if there were less, or if they were in more conventional places as opposed to in between the comments. Visual impact has been a focus on this update - in the form of ad impact. I think it's ultimately a failed strategy because anyone with two cents worth of sense will just use ad-block. I'd enjoy blocking that particularly garish one beside the four headline photos. If anything, at least this change would be great. Can there be one standard position for the ad at the top of an article. When opening an article, the ad is sometimes left, sometimes right. If you could leave the text left-aligned and the ad on the right, that would be fantastic. I'd also agree that banner needs some work. Maybe you could make it an ad?
October 30, 2008 10:18 am
 me7274 me7274
The previous wcf design is much better than this.
October 30, 2008 11:25 am
 Sharpie Sharpie
Is there a way one could pay a small fee a year not to have to look at the Adverts? It would be more like a premium membership.
October 30, 2008 11:50 am
 BrianWCF BrianWCF
This is definitely a possibility, but our previous surveys showed that nobody was willing to pay. Perhaps we should survey again. Any thoughts about this?
October 30, 2008 11:54 am
 foose1397 foose1397
payment for the website doesn't seem logical considering your competing against autoblog, jalopnik, and others which are free. I read because im on the go and don't wanna spend the money for mag. So premium price would discourage me. WCF needs to establish brand identity with your logos and formate and that will bring more people.
October 30, 2008 12:24 pm
 Airbag Airbag
Change..... nooooo! I'm melting! Can't adjust!!! Arrrrgh! But in all seriousness, looks good but will take some getting use to!
October 30, 2008 12:38 pm
 AmazingJerry AmazingJerry
Everyone stop bitching about the ads! The more you complain, the more it confirms that they're working! Ever think about that? I couldn't care less about the ads. I come here for the stories and that's it. Just ignore them.
October 30, 2008 12:51 pm
 Kepe Kepe
Ads are not supposed to be irritating and in-your-face. They should be placed so that they are seen, but not in your way. Oh well, I use ad-block everywhere so I really don't care.
October 30, 2008 7:28 pm
 darko2301 darko2301
excellent site, but I dislike redesign -.-'
October 30, 2008 4:20 pm
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