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Porsche 911 Turbo Facelift Spy Photos on the Ring

 Porsche 911 Turbo Facelift Spy Photos on the Ring
Porsche 911 Turbo Facelift Spied / AUTOMEDIA

Porsche, ever conservative in their approach to 911 design, have already revealed the facelifted versions of its current 911. Missing still has been the highly respected Turbo, but we can already confirm its existence from these latest spy pictures taken on the Nurburgring Nordschleife. The 911 Turbo is thought to be headed for a North American International Auto Show 2009 (Detroit) unveiling, which will confirm a number of features.

These include redesigned front and rear bumpers, a new headlight layout and new taillights. The new uprated turbo engine, probably displacing 3.8-litres, is said to make an extra 20hp (15kW) or so in order to set things completely straight between itself and its newest nemesis, the Nissan GT-R. Brakes are not expected to be changed because they are already in a very high class. Interior will get some form of enhancement as well to match the new look.

Source: AUTOMEDIA
Published Oct 16, 2008 5:03 am By Thami Masemola

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 hescian hescian
The 911 has been a great car for decades. The current 911 Turbo is sensational. I'm sure this new one will be just as great. One of the reasons that the 911 is held in such high regard, is that it truly is an EVERYDAY supercar. Anyone here who has owned one, knows that you can drive it every day, and pay a fraction for maintenance than you would with any other car of the same performance. From a styling standpoint, generally speaking, german cars do not drastically change the styling of their cars from year to year. They're styling evolves. You can always see elements of the last design, and direction towards future design. On the other hand, Japanese manufacturers will completely restyle their cars every couple of years. Some cars look good enough that they don't need a complete restyling, and the 911 is one of those cars.
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October 20, 2008 8:12 pm
 jalaad123 jalaad123
the 997 is faster than the gtr from rolling position
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October 19, 2008 10:51 pm
 pzigly pzigly
The GTR has a better drag ratio than any porsche. The 4door nissan altima has the same drag ratio as a 911 turbo. So I dont think they kept that style because of low drag.
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October 17, 2008 11:20 pm
 GanSan GanSan
Forgive me if I missed the part where this article was all about the GT-R, but how about posting comments about the Porsche? Porsche haven't changed their design because it's pretty close to perfect; not just as a matter of opinion on styling, but the shape and style have low drag.
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October 17, 2008 10:59 pm
 hescian hescian
Heh, Pzigly is a huge GT-R fan, but judging by his comments on this and other posts, I doubt he's even old enough to drive, much less have the money to afford one. And anyone who thinks a double-clutch transmission is just like an automatic really needs to get out of the stone age. I prefer the enjoyment of driving a true manual transmission, but the performance of a dual clutch can't be argued with. All sports cars are headed in that direction, and they should be.
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October 17, 2008 9:25 pm
 benxxl benxxl
Those of you who realy believe in the lap-times told by Nissan are fools. A bloody GT-R will never be as quick around the ring as a Porsche GT2. I´m more than sure Nissan cheated. Anyway it was good marketing...
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October 17, 2008 10:04 am
 benz_man benz_man
WOW, the comments on this article are hilarious! There is a clear and distinct difference between an automatic transmission, a CVT, and manual gear box. (For the sake of argument, lets just have the three categories) Like Airbag stated so eloquently, an automatic has a planetary gear set (of some type) and 99% of the time a torque converter (a fluid coupling device). There are two types of "sequential" shifting devices: auto-manuals, automatic transmissions that you can shift "manually"; and manu-matics, manual transmissions that (through high precision electro-hydraulics) can be shifted automatically. The CVT is like a 10-speed mountain bike, but with additional "half-gears" (and "quarter-gears", and "eighth-gears"...) between 1-10. The changes are "stepless" or "infinite". I don't even want to begin to explain a manual transmission. Just wikipedia it. If you dig cars...you'll want to know the difference! They're all so completely different, each with its own pros and cons. For kicks, VW has been passing off its DSG as a "six speed automatic" in US Jettas and Rabbits for some years now.
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October 17, 2008 9:50 am
 Airbag Airbag
DSG style gear boxes can operate in an automatic manner, but are not generally referred to as an automatic transmission as a matter of disambiguation. An automatic implies a planetary gear set and usually a torque converter (a notable exception being the M-B MCT transmission).
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October 17, 2008 2:53 am
 KingOfDirk KingOfDirk
pzigly - what color is your GTR?
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October 16, 2008 9:41 pm
 9TNine 9TNine
that's amazing Jerry... maybe it is, maybe it isn't... A CVT (Continiously variable transmission) is also an automatic, and considered an automatic! As far as I'm concerned, and you are welcome to differ in opinion, as forums are that purpose, any car you can drive down the road WITHOUT the need to change gear is, imo, an automatic... regardless of whether it has 15 clutches, torque converters or warp drive or whatever...
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October 16, 2008 6:14 pm
 AmazingJerry AmazingJerry
FYI, an automatic transmission uses a torque converter and hydraulic pressure to shift gears. It follows a completely different operating principle than the mechanical double clutch systems or the sequential system used in an F1 car. PDK or F1 trans are NOT automatic transmissions.
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October 16, 2008 5:04 pm
 joelynn joelynn
I respect Porsche for not changing the design because so many facelifts have ruined good cars, like the original Hyundai Coupe and the last FIAT Punto...
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October 16, 2008 4:29 pm
 dmanero dmanero
holy crap,porsche needs to rethink their brakes. That can't be normal that in day light we can see the rotors heat up like that. I know it's normal to see them at night. I've see races at the "ring" and never seen them light up like that.
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October 16, 2008 3:59 pm
 mc959 mc959
and those cars are a lot more expensive then the Porsches
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October 16, 2008 3:57 pm
 mc959 mc959
your all making a big fight between Porsche and Nissan, but the Nissan was also faster(ring-time + others) then the Ferrari F430 and 599GTB, and also the Lambo Gallardo and LP640, + all the other super cars
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October 16, 2008 3:56 pm
 9TNine 9TNine
It's an automatic..
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October 16, 2008 1:20 pm
 amade.ch amade.ch
double clutch system = automatic? that proves you've never driven such a car.
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October 16, 2008 11:43 am
 pzigly pzigly
I dont think 20hp will be enough to gain 2-3 seconds on a normal size track. The GTR is about 2-3 seconds faster on a 2-3 mile track. 20 hp might get a second. It would need to be 3-4sec quicker than the old one to beat the GTR. Nice try though....
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October 16, 2008 10:50 am
 mortz mortz
you got a point
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October 16, 2008 10:47 am
 afterace2 afterace2
even if they outrun the GTR, so what? The Turbo costs twice as much, it should be twice as fast ;P
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October 16, 2008 10:45 am
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