BMW Shelves Plans for E92 M3 CSL
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So sad. Where is BMW going lately? Someone needs to smack some heads there.
August 27, 2008 2:23 pm
wat???? this dosent make any sense to me??? why wouldnt they bring it back specially with those specification. Are they gonna wait another decade or so to bring it back again??? When the CSL came out in 2003 they only made 500 copies and they were only sold in the U.K. still not enough for enthusiast that wanted that type of performance! i think they should keep making the CSL and throw outt he idea of the X6 M version or whatever thats gonna be... honestly we all love the CSL and why not have in a newer version of the body style?! dont throw this idea away for the next 10 years its not worth it!
August 28, 2008 2:56 am
Are you sure there is a market for M X5 and M X6? Who drives fast SUVs? Bring back the M CSL please!
August 28, 2008 9:40 am
I was considering trading my Z for an E46 M3, but I just can't now...the BMW badge can simply no longer be trusted. I propose a slogan change...from "BMW...the ultimate driving machine" to "BMW cars for status-hungry people" or even "BMW...the death of a legend"
August 27, 2008 2:24 pm
I know your nickname might be misleading and your comment might seem biased at first, but damn it you're right!
I had BMW second in my preferences after Porsche but lately, I find things less and less attractive about new Bimmers. Of course, a lot of azzholes in my country think BMW is going the right way so I guess they are the new target audience...
August 27, 2008 3:42 pm
Not to worry, BMW purists, I'm sure they'll have an MX6 CSL on the market in just a few short years. **sigh** I still have my white 95' E36 LW in my garage safe and sound, where the Ultimate SUV Machine makers can't get at it.
August 27, 2008 2:54 pm
Are you sure you wouldn't like some IDrive installed in that thing...or perhaps some more green technologies?? lol
August 27, 2008 5:21 pm
WHAT THE HELL? WHAT KIND OF BULLSH*T IS THIS,
in a couple of years BMW M division will be where AMG was 10 years ago, it seems they are going backwards!!
August 27, 2008 3:00 pm
This is really bad news... maybe Audi's RS5 will finally be able to beat the M3 afterall??
August 27, 2008 4:22 pm
LONG LIVE AUTO UNION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bye bye BM trouble you! Chris Bangle on their design team was the worst mistake they ever made.
August 27, 2008 4:25 pm
I can't wait to see what Joe_Limon has to say about his most loved brand...which I see as total crap.
August 27, 2008 4:37 pm
honestly, I wasn't really excited about the csl, the m series was good enough for me. But thanks for thinking of me haha.
August 27, 2008 7:16 pm
This doesnt surprise me, as BMW do not release a CSL version for every 3-series platform.
You people cry as if the current M3 is not the dominating 3 door german family performance coupe! When Audi release their RS5 it will be better than the M3, but only after the 4 years of current M3's being in showrooms. Thats Audi's game.
The day BMW closes its M division, then scream and shout. Until then there is still only one ultimate driving machine. I can now imagine I will get slated for this.
August 27, 2008 5:10 pm
BMW is more sissy than ever and it`s obvious that they won`t change it for long time...Audi introduces more and more S and RS versions, and Merc AMG are very numerous and now they have Black Series ivasion and many supercar plans...
BMW is going to change VW place...that means Money Making Not Interesting Cars :P
August 27, 2008 5:50 pm
And watch now as the CLK63 AMG Black rolls over the M division sales, then backs up and rolls over them again. Idiots! This was their one chance to slap the smirk off Merc's podgy face. All I kept thinking was when the CSL comes out it's going to take this little toy (the Black) to the cleaners. The same goes for the M1 and the R8 - with a Biturbo V8, the M1 would whup the admittedly cool Audi. But thanks BMW, way to stuff my confidence in you. You can have your stupid X6 back.
August 27, 2008 6:45 pm
I hate my 2007 328i. Worst damn lease I have ever done. Definitely not getting another 3, 5, SUV series again. The 1 series, 7 series, and Z4M (Coupe) are the only series I would ever look into again. Until Chris Bangle gets kicked out, I doubt I will ever leave those series from BMW's inventory.
August 27, 2008 7:34 pm
true for me bmw died since 2006 i own a 01 e39 m5 to remember the good times of BMW man they were such amazing machines, great engine, excellent driving, sexy and discreat exterior. now the may have good engines but, cheap lexus desing and useless technology, man look at the new 7 series i will never buy one. ill take a older 7 series or other car rather than the new bmw
August 27, 2008 10:04 pm
I share your sentiments... it gets harder and harder to defend BMW everyday... guess I should go kiss my four-ring cousin's big toe or something now...
August 27, 2008 7:32 pm
Are they still making that BMW supercar thingum? that's where my last hope lies... BMW has till 2012 to "go out" with a bang before the new EU legislation sets in...
August 27, 2008 7:34 pm
BMW is a business, if it is not profitable, why should they enter into it??? just to please a few guys or have a beating game with the trashy Audi. Afterall Audi is th one trying to copy BMW all the time. The reason why Audi can make cars like RS5, RS6, RS this and that is because essentially they are nothing but VW's and we all know that they VW's are cheap. Only idiots would fall for them. I say that because they share parts, even all the RS share parts like the R8 and RS4 engine, what's the use of that? so they make 1 engine and fit it to all RS models and label it as performance, yet the handling is so rubbish, especially when you push it a bit. All BMWs have a unique character and that's why it takes money and time to develop, not some generic rubbish from VW that's 4 wheel drive and call it a sports car...and don;t come with this thing about faster in th wet, who cares... BMW is the true sports car with perfect balance and handling and that's all that matters.
August 27, 2008 7:47 pm
You are living in a naive world, if you think BMW are the best cars. Wake up to yourself!
August 28, 2008 9:36 am
That's funny, BMWs started handling more like lorries than anything, when in comparison with Audi's performance in all seasons. BMW does handle better in dry and warm conditions, but that's it. Their 4WD versions are complete and total utter crap. Their cars are getting heavier and heavier with worthless "luxuries" just to inflate the car's price. Need I remind you of the 2002 7 series and all their problems with their software? BMWs are complete "rubbish" as you put it. They are the Dodge or Chevy of Germany except with better build quality.
As far as Audi is concerned, even back when they were Auto Union, they've always done great work with their cars and possibly the most highly engineered and advanced cars in the affordable mass market arena. They are still kings of 4WD. They have made it their art. When you start bashing Audi in praise for BMW, and don't even bother considering or respecting Audi with important safety features as better performance in the wet, then your argument just gets that much more shallow.
BMWs were once "The Ultimate Driving Machine." Not anymore. They are comfortable, they are definitely safer as the years passed, but not ultimate driving machines. BMW in their past, up until 2005, have built damn fine machines. But when they let Chris Bangle) take over their designs, and then made stupid decisions as bagging their CSL line, they are drifting away from their concept. Even when I had my Z4 M. That car was a BLAST to drive, until I took it to a local track to practice on my driving and get the "speed" out of me. The car felt heavy, understeered a lot, and just was not the ultimate driving machine BMW says they are. It was just complete crap once it was put on the track.
But in fairness, I will say the 1 series are definitely a step in the right direction. Those are great machines and very well designed and engineered. I am even looking at purchasing one when this lease is up. I had the fortune of driving a track-mate's 1 series around (no modifications, completely stock 135i) on the track and it handled beautifully. Surprisingly better than my Z4 M. Do I think BMW will follow what they did with the 1 series on their other cars? I doubt it. But there is always hope.
Again, Audi is going to win this easily if BMW keeps going backwards and producing piles of dung and lorries called the new M3. It is very sad when my 328i handles corners better than the new M3.
August 27, 2008 8:49 pm
dude you been driving only bimmers. the few of them that you even like are designed by bangle. ( the z4 and the 1 ). youve told me earlier and now that you tracktested most of the bimmers but i really doubt your driving skills when i see pro drivers praising the m3.
your statements contradict themselves. and also what exactly are audi going to WIN? ive been in 4 continets so far in my life and ive only seen more bimmers and mercs on the road. and dont tell me those ppl are idiots.
seriously you should just get an audi and take it easy :-). peace
August 28, 2008 6:46 am
You know what Michelin, you're right. Perhaps I will get an Audi when this lease is up. Their cars have only been getting better and better, while BMW is just going backwards, save for the 1 series.
That new M3, and I have said this time and time again, is total utter crap. If your "pro" drivers are praising the car, I wonder how much they are getting paid. All I have heard is regret on purchasing the car for 70K when the car feels like it should be worth closer to 40.
But yeah man, you are right, lemme get an Audi. I really fancy that RS4. Not the new one coming out, but the older one, perhaps a 2005.
August 28, 2008 11:00 am
Lol, I think a lot of you posters should go work for BMW and tell them what they are doing wrong. Perhaps you could tell the Quandt family they should sell themselves to VW and share almost every piece of hardware and software to companies like Seat and Skoda...
BMW and Honda are the only car manufacturers without a nice BIG parent company throwing money at whatever project they choose.
If some of you would think with a little more BUSINESS before you post, you may understand BMW's actions.
Some people here really need to learn how to drive if they constantly require an unbalanced 4x4 system to stop them from having an accident. Pitiful.
August 27, 2008 10:23 pm
To be honest most posts on here are just annoyed BMW fans that won't get the chance to brag about a new M3 CSL beating other performance cars times around the Nurburgring or outperforming them in car tests/shootouts. Thats what its all about , a "M3 CSL ripped up the CLK63 AMG on da Nurburgring" affair. Not one on here would dare dream of buying one because of its track bred nature so i understand BMW in their decision to can it.
August 27, 2008 11:00 pm









