Audi Officially Announce New 3.0 TFSI Supercharged Engine
290hp and 420Nm of torque
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Errr...isn't a supercharger a form of a turbocharger. In that sense, Audi is still using the T as it has already been. It's just that Audi now has their first ever supercharged engine.
June 27, 2008 8:04 am
Turbo- and superchargers achieve the same aim, but through completely different means. Both force more air into the engine on intake, but a supercharger is driven by the engine itself, whereas a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gass as it is expelled.
June 27, 2008 8:07 am
Now this engine will be a proper fighter to BMW's 3.0 turbo.. Although this has 20 Nm more of torque, it has 16 less horsepower..
June 27, 2008 10:18 am
as is the case with turbo vs supercharging. It all depends on how the engine is tuned. A automotive manufacturer simply has to tune its intake/exhaust for higher rpms to complement a turbo and get high hp numbers, but such cars aren't as fun to drive since they generally have an extra exagerated spike in their torque curve... making it harder to predict and drive. Same goes for super charging, if you tune the intake/exhaust/rest of engine for low rpm torque you can get really impressive numbers... but it ends up running like a diesel and the engine quickly runs out of breath at higher rpms. To me an optimal set up would to tune various components of the car to peak efficiency at different stages of the rpm band. This method won't give you the most powerful or torque numbers, but it will be faster and easier to drive overall. All in all flat torque curves rule!
June 27, 2008 11:53 am
I could be wrong, but I'm guessing this engine will replace the current 3.1. As Nitrous points out, it's closer in line with the BMW 3.0 turbo, as well as the V6s from everyone else.
June 27, 2008 11:49 am
I still think Turbochargers are more efficient. If it's that instanious delivery of torque/ hp they want, then just make it a compact turbo.
June 27, 2008 11:51 am
turbo's are more efficient compared to superchargers.
from what i've heard... turbo's are related to air and superchargers are related to gasoline. Basically one works with air to get more power, but the supercharger sprays more gasoline into the engine and gets power that way. That's what i've been told at least. but yea, personally i'd go for a turbo just for the noise itself. The supercharger whine is quite annoying to me lol
June 27, 2008 1:46 pm
Carcrazy, turbos are more efficient because they create boost from wasted exhuast heat as it expands while leaving the combustion chamber. Superchargers are less efficient because they create boost by spinning directly from the engine crank. Both deliver the same "forced induction". Turbos have been given a bad rap for turbolag, but thats almost non-existent in modern, low-inertia, multi-scroll units. Superchargers get a bad rap because efficency decreases with engine RPM. However, you can always put an electromagnetic clutch on the supercharger pulley and disable it when not needed...
June 27, 2008 7:17 pm
this engine could also make its way to the TT clubsport or the TT-RS IMO
June 27, 2008 1:56 pm
Is this the new v6 engine that's rumored to be in the newer S5s? I'd rather keep the FSI V8. It probably sounds much nicer.
June 27, 2008 7:08 pm
oookk...after ruining the 5.2 v10 biturbo, they ruined this one too? why it doesn't even have 100 bhp per litre...with this "state of the art" supercharger? 290??? jeeezzz, are they cheap. at least 300. and they wanna replace the 350 bhp engine on the s5 with this one? oh come on... i think it's a stupid move. just like with the r8 v10, they gave it less bhp than the rs6...and the future rs 7. stupid...
June 27, 2008 11:31 pm
so if you want a s4 buy a a4 and supercharge bad move for audi and if you want to know how it will sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bcJ9jYkeo
June 28, 2008 9:00 pm
there will probably be different states of tune for this engine. this is likely the spec to go into the a6. the s4/s5 will get a higher powered version.
June 29, 2008 5:44 pm
...and it will easily win the 'International engine of the year award' - just to rub salt into the current double winner the 2.9 litre BMW bi turbo. The good part is this class of engines is becoming extremely competitive what with Subaru and Mitsubishi also making super turbo engines.
How does this engine compare to the 2 litre turbo doing it's duty in the S3. That's a good engine.
July 1, 2008 4:07 am
Supercharger is belt driven and Turbocharger is exhaust propelled, but they both serve the same purpose to force more in the engine to boost power. So anyway do not underestimate Audi when it comes to technology because this might be Audi's first supercharger coming to the market but Audi been supplying so many other manufactures with similar components of this nature.
February 6, 2009 2:50 pm









