BMW X3 is Afraid of Mercedes GLK but not Audi Q5
From BMW Spokesman
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wjaprep
Wow, did Audi just get betch (I thought we had freedom of speach in the states...) slapped? Lol, but I must agree, I would drive the GLK over the X3, but I would drive the Q5 over the X3 too.
June 9, 2008 7:17 pm
r584cv
We traded a disaster of a BMW, an 06 325xi for our Q5. The Q5 is so much better. The BMW had months in the shop, tterrible service from a dealer that was just interested iin moving the metal, the ser4vice director was a Mazda guy. It was a horrible experience. The Q5 rides better, gets better gas mileage, more room, quieter DOES NOT HAVE RUN FLAT TIRES replaced every 7000 miles by BMW in the front for noise and funny wear. The dealer said we needed to make sure the alignment was OK so we did and after it didn't even track right. The AUDI is wonderful
November 12, 2009 7:51 pm
racsozelev
i can understand it, i would also move to the mercs, the Q5 being so dull, boring design like most audis. they might be good cars, but that is not enough nowadays, audis have a reputation here in spain of a car for the new rich ones who have no taste and want to disguise it by buying a good car that nobody dislikes, but nobody really likes either. sorry to put it like that, but we have so many audis here in spain driven by crappy looking people in cheap or expensive but disgusting outfit.... you all know that spanish economy has madly grown in the last 10 years on the fast brick and cheap tourism business... so there you go. my apologies to the ones that cannot be put together with the spanish drivers i just described and still bought an audi. they are not bad cars, just aimed to the wannabe market. i apologize again in advance, i know many of you will hate me for this.
June 9, 2008 7:36 pm
xenomorph
Its typically (and still is) BMWs who attract the "wannabes". I get the feeling you don't really know what you are talking about, but thats ok, most common people don't understand the finer things in life. I mean what you have said about Audi's being dull etc could not be more wrong. Who was it that won world design car of the year for the past 2 years in a row? Who was it that won world performance car of the year for the past 2 years in a row? Who was it that won world car ot the year.....etc, etc, etc. I think the point here is that the industry and people have accepted Audi as being one of the best car manufacturers in the world while you havn't. Its fine to have your own opinion, as long as it doesn't make you look like an imbecile.
June 10, 2008 5:27 am
rrich
BMW should be afraid.....They should be very afraid in this vehicle class.... Just spent the last few weeks looking for the best all around vehicle in this class of crossovers. Drove the GLK, the X3, the XC60 and the Q5...the Q5 won hands down! BMW had better take another look at how well this vehicle is selling ..... For someone to think Audis are only for wannabes, they obviously have confused status as being a real priority and must be blind to real differences in performance.....
May 17, 2009 1:03 pm
RS5
I'd take Audi over BMW any day. To me BMW is throwing its brand image down a shithole with cars like the 1 series and the upcoming X1, and no longer having cars like the Z8. No other 'premium' brand that I know has gone that low, and this shows just how much BMW is all about profits. BTW the Q5 in terms of interior and exterior aesthetics kicks both GLK and X3 ass. I've been in and driven an X3 and honestly that BMW spokesman whoever he was had no right to say what he did.
June 9, 2008 7:43 pm
Pentium
we didn't see the X1, but why you are talking about the 1 Series like that? I've been in 130i hatchback and I tested 135i coupe, both are great!
June 10, 2008 2:53 am
RS5
I never said the 1 series as a car itself was a bad car. I just don't agree with the idea of having such a cheap car for a luxury manufacturer like BMW. Isn't that what Mini's for?
June 10, 2008 7:05 pm
desiathate
idk... i would buy and audi over GLK any day!! just not a fan of Mercedes its more for snobs and people who dont know how to drive... i guess i like cars the can hold their own in a corner... and as far as bmw and audi goes... i am a bit bias towards Bmws so i guess ill still take the x3 even thou its not as good a car as the other two... my feeling is if you love bmws and dont like the x3(like me) you will get the Q5 before the GLK!
June 9, 2008 7:50 pm
racsozelev
by the way, i have not driven an x3, and obviously not a Q5 either, but i have driven a 3 series and an A4, and the 3 series is in another galaxy as for feelings. i add this comment as i only wrote about subjective facts before....
June 9, 2008 7:51 pm
xenomorph
You drove a B8 A4? With the same engine as the 3 series? All reviews I have seen say the A4 is the new leader, I don't think you have even driven the new A4. You sound like a wannabe BMW fanboy in my opinion. The BMWs suit your personality in any case, arrogent, tasteless, dim-witted.
June 10, 2008 5:37 am
racsozelev
RS5, i agree with you on what bmw is doing with its name and reputation. just a pity.
June 9, 2008 7:56 pm
benz_man
"Just because Audi will price the car in a premium segment does not make it a premium vehicle" Damn, thems fightin words!
June 9, 2008 8:06 pm
BENZian
Everyday I read the comments posted here and everyday I hear comments that are solely based on opinions and rarely based on facts. Frequently the following is written about Porsches, BMWs, MB, even Ferrari... "omg...please don't build this car it is destroying your company's image...it will destroy your company's reputation." Even Rolls Royce, Bentley, and Ferrari have made or are in the process of producing a down-market vehicle. This has nothing to do with your opinion of these car companies. It has everything to do with bottom line profit margins, growing market share, and the economies of scale provide by a certain level of volume production. It also has to do with the obsessive compulsion of the buying public to lust after premium products whether they are clothes or cars. The car companies are serving the market...supply and demand the pillar of capitalism. You cannot fault the car companies for delivering down-market cars or for entering previously neglected niche sectors. These companies have to generate profits for the shareholders and it is smart of them to increase volume and produce niche vehicles like Porsche's Cayenne & Panamerica, BMWs 1 series, MB's c-class derivatives and GLK...as well as Rolls Royce, Bentley & Ferrari producing a lower priced entry level car to name a few... If you want to hurl insults then aim them at the correct target - the buying public...the ones that can't afford MB's S class, Porsche's 911s, and top tier Rolls Royces, Bentleys, & Ferraris... The label-status seeking poseurs have clamored for more affordable models from the premium and super premium car manufacturers...and I dare say...unlike most of the posters here...at least they are buying the vehicles...not merely typing venomous comments that are out-of-touch with reality and the facts.
June 9, 2008 8:22 pm
RS5
With your logic, why doesn't Rolls Royce, Porsche or any luxury company for that matter just abandon its image and start producing 17,000 dollar cars to compete with the Toyota Camry? Why doesn't Ferrari just start producing 50,000 dollar sports cars? They'd all certainly reap more profits that way. Sure, every brand might have a 'cheap' car but they should all know limits to how low they can go. With your logic, shouldn't Maybach, which is having trouble selling its ultra luxury sedans produce luxury sedans half the price? Profit margins and whatever are just nonsense. Cheaper cars will most likely sell better and BMW is utilizing this idea while throwing its image down the drain. At least for me and a couple others on this forum.
June 10, 2008 5:53 pm
THERENAISSANCEMAN
well , Benzian , there actually is a thing called FREEDOM OF SPEECH in in which any individual could liberally express one's thinking in whatever channel he chooses to do so . now , as for the matter whether people actually make an automobile purchase or not ,
you can bet that the main underlying reason behind people changing their minds is that they were not completely impressed at all.
June 20, 2008 2:37 pm
SD-AMG
Well said BMW! I really don't like Audi! So of course I understand that their customers wont go down to a car on Audi level
June 9, 2008 8:38 pm
xenomorph
I guess some people really are born stupid. Seeing as Mercedes has one of the lowest positions for quality, reliability and consumer satisfaction I'm sure people will want to downgrade, you obviously want to.
June 10, 2008 5:45 am
benz_man
They do share a platform, but after what VW and Porsche did with the Touareg/Cayenne I trust that they can pull off sharing engineering costs without going all GM on everyone and selling "Tahoes for Yukons".
June 10, 2008 12:41 am
desiathate
For all of you audi haters!!! say what you will but audi can hold its own!
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=126666?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*
June 10, 2008 12:43 am
boyke69
that's the A4 and the C350, not the GLK and the Q5. yes, i would take the A4 rather than the C350 for daily use, but in this case i'll take the GLK, the Q5 isn't that attractive, although better than the fat Q7
June 10, 2008 4:51 am
Alan
Very Incorrect Mr Moderator and for those that think the Q5 is based on the Tiguran. The fact is, it is based on the MLB architecture/platform from the A5/S5, just as the new 2009 A4/S4 is. It does NOT share the platform with the VW.
June 20, 2008 6:40 pm
Mike_B.
wjaprep: "(I thought we had freedom of speach in the states...)"
You do in the US, but...
1) This is an international site, and...
2) By using this comment board, you agree to the site's terms of use. Which basically means you voluntarily gave-up an absolute right to free speech.
Dang it.... LOL!
But that aside, the styling of the GLK is the most appealing to me. Next is the Q5, and I don't anticipate that the new-gen X3 will change that if Huckfeldt's most recent efforts are anything to go by.
June 9, 2008 9:29 pm
wills2007
It really isn't anything like a Tiguan, it's not some platform-sharing badge swap, I'm quite serious about buying an Audi Q5 come Autumn, that or a Freelander 2. Here in England, X3s are bought by people who can't afford X5s, they are cheap-looking, cheap and nasty inside and very un-BMW. As for the GLK, it's just plain ugly, thank god there is no right hand drive so it won't have to grace the UK with it's presence.
June 9, 2008 9:32 pm
Eizo
The X3 looks awful and the looks of GLK work better on the GL. THe Q5 looks ok but I guess neither Audi nor MB will outsell the BMW.
June 9, 2008 9:43 pm
LEMZQ
I would just like to say that i am with you all the way Moderator. Audis are overpriced VWs, and they think just by giving them i higher price makes them more premium. I am not a beemer fan but would take the x3 over the Q5. The X3 looks awful, but has looks. The Q5 is just plain bland. To save myself time, i will drive the Tiguan and i will know what to expect from the Q5.
June 9, 2008 9:46 pm
xenomorph
LOL someone please call the imbecile police. Havn't heard someone say something as stupid as you for a long time. There really are some seriously dumb people out there. You've just got to laugh at their stupidity in the end.
June 10, 2008 5:50 am
BabyMilo
personally i have always compared BMW nd merc with eachother but i have never really asosiated audi with thos 2... it could b coz BMW nd merc have both been the best selling luxury car companies... and there is kinda abit more status in driving a BMW or merc insted of an audi
June 9, 2008 9:54 pm
michelin901
true bmw has no need to be worried abt the 'q'iguan. never been a fan of the x3 when it came out altho the facelifted version looks decent. the glk is a bit too boxy but both are certainly better than the audi.
June 9, 2008 10:06 pm
xenomorph
Either you have test driven and compared each 3 models in person or you are an idiot. I know which of those options you most likely are.
June 10, 2008 10:45 am
michelin901
wcf readers listen up. audi has the right to be the best and no one else. no others can win comparisons. as said by mr 'audiot' here ^^. clearly the biggest imbecile. read my comment man, im talkin abt looks. i dont have to test drive em for tat. jeeez
June 10, 2008 3:21 pm
xenomorph
The X3 looks like a hog and the GLK looks like a tissue box on wheels, I guess thats hot for you and means they are "better". At least the Audi has some curves and character. Not that you could pick up on any of that though, probably just another wannabe BMW fanboy.
June 10, 2008 3:48 pm
xenomorph
Better than a BMW fanboy. BMWs are generally associated with arrogent tasteless people, like yourself I would assume.
June 10, 2008 5:03 pm
michelin901
arrogent? new word u just learnt today at school? u seem to be the one enjoying insulting bmw fans. one of the most baseless comments ever heard - bmws bein associated with arrogance. wat a loser
June 10, 2008 5:16 pm
lucifa
x3 looks a little awkward, but then ALL bmw's have had their critics since bangle came along. think; first people hate the e90 3 series, then the e60 5 series, the x3, the z4 and even the 6! fact is bmws have character, whether or not you hate that character is your own opinion. similarly, the glk has presence, because it manages to look big without actually being big. the q5? just looks boring. smoother than the x3 and not as ostentatious as the glk, but it doesnt have character. it just looks like an audi a4 offroad on steroids.
June 12, 2008 11:57 am
si1982
I would take the GLK. It looks great and if it follows the Merc tradition would drive great too.
BMW x3 looks like the poorer cousin of the x5. Its like saying "i could not afford an x5 so I bought an x3" whereas the GLK looks smart...
June 9, 2008 11:41 pm
lucifa
surely, based upon sheer fun in driving, bmws top every single class theyre in? so you would take a GLK over an X3 because the GLK drives well? erm, surely the X3 would still driver better? and as for the X3 looking like a cheap X5, yeah i gotta agree with you there. but, by the same token, realistically the GLK just looks like a cheap GL... theyre both wannabes...
June 10, 2008 2:40 am
benz_man
The GLK looks like a purposed design. Particularly the interplay of the steep windshield, canted D-pillar and aggressive, rising bodyside lines opposing the falling rear roofline. I think it actually looks quite grand. The X3, on the other hand, appears as just a baby X5. And pre 05 models ride like Mini Coopers, without the go-kart handling to match. To be fair, it did have the best steering feel of any SUV I've ever driven, still.
June 10, 2008 5:47 am
lucifa
yeah youre right about the X3 being the mini X5, but ive just had a close look at both the GL and GLK... the GLK just looks like a cheap version of a facelifted GL - hardened lines and a better roofline, and smaller. take a look at the GL when its next facelifted. my bet is itl just look like a richer version of the glk. though, for all im a bmw fan, ill give it that the glk does look good..
June 10, 2008 6:21 am
gtrs09
what about people who dont want a car as big as the x5? what a dumb comment
June 10, 2008 5:23 pm
metatron
PLease this must be a joke ? Bmw thinks that they can put out some stupid rhetoric press release and everyone will believe they don't consider Audi a formidable competitor. Its a very old trick to make yourself look bigger and badder than you really are! Have you noticed that Audi is leading the segment in actual luxury appointments .BMw cant even make a comfortable cabin at any price point! Any auto web site you would go to for months if you typed in Audi a BMW ad would pop up? The MI sports car wasn't even in development until bmw learned of the r8 and saw how it whooped a@@. And it looks better than any BMW to date! Within a few years bmw will be looking for all the customers they lost because of their butt ugly cars and toyota interiors.Hey but you get a $10000 motor with every purchase.Not buying you crap BMW your glory days are over.
June 10, 2008 12:43 am
michelin901
dont get wat u mean by sayin audi leads luxury appointments?
order of the most cars seen on the road :-
sclass } 7ser } a8
5series } eclass } a6
3series } cclass } a4
mclass } x5 ] q7
am i wrong? let everyone be the judge here
June 10, 2008 1:59 am
michelin901
damn tat came out all wrong when inserted
wat i meant was the sclass leads the race followed by the 7 series.. i hardly see a8s on the road
the next class is lead by the 5 series (its a known fact) followed by the eclass( more in no.) and the a6
the next class is ofcourse the 3series followed by the c and the a4. the 3 is sefinitley the best drivers car here.
am not sure abt the suvs but the x5 and the ml are clear favs more than the q7
June 10, 2008 2:05 am
xenomorph
So the representation of the whole world?s car distributions are represented by the area you live in? Different countries have different distributions of cars just so you know. And going by what you have said, better cars are determined by the number of cars sold. I guess that means Toyotas are the best cars in the world then according to your logic. Also, you might want to go back to school to learn to spell before typing your diarrhoea quality comments here.
June 10, 2008 4:01 pm
michelin901
clearly your brain level cant get it tat im talking abt just the 3 brands.
June 10, 2008 4:13 pm
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