Hyundai Genesis Pricing for US Announced

Have you driven one already?

no! the s class is a WAY better looking car!! this is too hideous! but thn again it is a hyundai

stealing is not big deal? who brought you up

You're completely missing the point, dude.

So, what you're saying is, I'm supposed to respect this car because Hyundai is applying the same ruthlessly simple business strategy of "more for less" to its flagship sedan? I don't know what kind of experience you have with automobile manufacturers, but that sort of tactic does not encourage respect.

"Hyundai is not a luxury manufacturer". You must be pretty dumb and ignorant. Just because Hyundai doesn't sell luxury cars where you live doesn't mean it doesn't produce luxury cars. You've obviously never heard of the Equus sedan or have seen the Grandeur (which was sorely dumbed down to be sold in the US as the Azera,) both of which are limited to parts of Asia and Europe. This car was meant to be a replacement for the outdated Equus which was sold mainly in Korea and was a strong competitor to the Mercedes S class, BMW 7 and the likes. Just becuase you don't know something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, so I suggest you do some research before making stupid comments like that again. And why does everyone bash Hyundai for copying other manufacturers. Its not like Mercedes or Audi didn't copy BMW's idea of iDrive or Chris Bangle didn't copy the "Bangle Butt" from previous Hyundais, and how creative can you get when being so conservative with design. Some of you are so ignorant that you can't face the fact that what may have seemed like a "cheap" automobile company is actually expanding its luxury sement to other parts of the world. Just stop your stupid blabbering and face the reality that Hyundai has built a car which in comparison to its German counterparts may be the best bang for the buck.

Me? Dumb and ignorant? Excuse me, RS5, but playing the offensive from the start is the strategy of an individual with a losing argument. I live in Canada, and fortunately do not have experience with these Hyundai models you claim to be competitive with the S-Class and 7-Series. I apologize if you misunderstood the context of my argument; I was talking specifically about Hyundai's ambitions of entering the luxury automobile markets in countries OTHER THAN their own. It's easy to be competitive with German manufacturers half a world away, producing cars domestically. But those facts are all beside the point. You seem to have taken but one sentence of my remark and butchered it out of context in some effort to rebut an argument I wasn't really even making, so let me reiterate: In the western world, Hyundai is not a luxury automobile manufacturer.

Why don't you go look up the Hyundai Equus, Grandeur XG and the Dynasty. Then you'll realize that Hyundai has been in the luxury market for quite a while. The main point is that this car was meant to be a replacement for the Equus, which was a direct competitor to the S class like this car will be in certain parts of Asia and Europe. Obviously it has been dumbed down to be sold in the US as a cheaper car because Americans have always regarded Hyundai to be a "cheap brand" and won't pay the $70,000 it may likely cost had the same car being sold in Korea for instance been brought here. I don't understand why people like you have problems with Hyundai trying to expand its luxury segment throughout the world. And nowhere in your previous posts did you mention "Hyundai's ambitions of entering the luxury automobile markets in countries OTHER THAN their own". And I don't understand why you have a problem with that either. And how is this "a carbon copy German saloon". The automitive industry is replete with designers copying one another's ideas. Just because this car has ribbed grilles, chrome doorhandles and headlights that slant upwards doesn't mean that it's intended to be a copy of a Mercedes S class. If anything, it looks more like something that would be found in Japan.

But Hyundai has not built a car that is legitimately as good at its German and Japanese rivals. They have built a car that is comparable in some key quantifiable fields and sells for significantly less. What I am saying is this sort of strategy does not encourage respect in this market segment because executive saloons are not supposed to be affordable; moreover, Hyundai have not performed anything astonishing with this vehicle (aside from applying their same ruthlessly simple business strategies to it) which is necessary when trying to compete in a new market segment. On top of that, this car is fated to lack all appeal (aside from the purely economical) because its design characteristics draw heavily from its competitors. This car was designed by economists (and financially single-minded businessmen) for economy-minded people, and that is not at all keeping with the executive sedan ethos.

originality and brand status r very important and yes i would pay the extra

It is not a problem of originality it is a problem of no idea about stealing others work. Since, when a typical police matter stands as a design problem, the design, architecture and art are presumably dead out and already begun to be replaced by that Lithuanian ExCaliber like demolitions