Porsche Panamera Production to Commence April 2009

Porsche Panamera Spy Photo / Copyright by autoscoop.biz

Just after Geneva Debut

By Clinton Deacon
May 28, 2008 10:00 AM
Filed Under: German, Porsche, Rumours, Spy Photos

Latest details of the upcoming Porsche Panamera have surfaced courtesy of Dutch Magazine Autotelegraaf which reports we are likely to see the production for the four-door coupe commence in April 2009, just one month after we expect to see the worldwide debut at the Geneva Motor Show.

Porsche has confirmed that the Panamera will be built at its Leipzig plant alongside the Cayenne, and word coming from the Germans suggest that maximum production capacity is currently 26,000 units per annum, although this could be limited to 20,000.

There have been so many sighting of a number of Porsche Panamera prototypes spotted around Germany usually sporting very little disguising, therefore when we finally see the unveiling we really won't have much to report about. One question that still remains though is what lies beneath the hood.

Source: Autotelegraaf.nl

Comments

oldsnake
May 28, 2008 10:16 AM
looks nice

Hiromichi
May 28, 2008 11:20 AM
It looks Maserati Quatorporte with 911 face and hip. As the model would be front mounted engine propels RWD, rear styling will become more elegant than disguised hip in the photo.

122
May 28, 2008 11:22 AM
Endless spying shots, Still under a year till it goes to production..

Get_real
May 28, 2008 1:24 PM
What a dumb remark. So what? What do they have to do with each other?

alessandro
May 28, 2008 3:27 PM
Aha, and a MB GL is bigger

NISMO
May 28, 2008 8:35 PM
and hybrids are greener!!!

kevoluetion
May 28, 2008 12:09 PM
I dont think Porsche design team has given much thought in this model

Get_real
May 28, 2008 1:42 PM
Yeah right, they probably just quickly put something together without considering much. It's not like this is an important project for them...

jimjamz
May 28, 2008 12:12 PM
Under the hood?? Front engine???

Cyx
May 29, 2008 6:47 AM
90% It's the front engine I guess.You see,It's rear is too short,MId-engine?It seems that impossible

Xanavi23
May 28, 2008 3:25 PM
Its pretty nice...Porsche was going to make a sedan for a few years now, 4-5...so as a Porsche looking 4-door its very nice.

THERENAISSANCEMAN
May 28, 2008 3:32 PM
great , now the Cayenne and the Scirocco have a genuine sibling. hyped vehicles with butt ugly buttlines----notwithstanding the slouchy appearance.

alessandro
May 28, 2008 3:39 PM
Rear doors edges in the role of fenders in that class of car? Like Q5.

500lbman
May 28, 2008 4:02 PM
The Quattroporte is a MUCH better looking car than this. Not to mention Aston Martin is coming out with their 4-door that looks stunning. The Panamera looks sporty, but the back end design does not look right to me. Looks cheap.

vadizzel
May 28, 2008 4:59 PM
Why do we need this car? Porsche was not meant to be a sedan or a family car. Isnt this the reason for Porsche looking into buying VW. Leave it alone. First the SUV now that.

vadizzel
May 28, 2008 5:19 PM
I have an Idea. A pick up truck that will complete the line up LOL

Momentumporsche
May 28, 2008 7:13 PM
first the guy that said " GTR is faster" is a dumb ass.. I sale Porsches and lets face it.. they are two completey different markets moron.. and it's still a NISSAN.. hmmm lets see.. roll up to valet in a 911 Twin turbo pushing 480 horses soon to be 500 horses out of a 6 cylinder w a porsche badge or a nissan in made by the same company that makes the SENTRA lol the Porsche Panamera final production photo and release will be in Geneva ( March ) my boss will be in Chicago in October so I will be able to give details.. if you like this photo wait till you see the final production car.. Also, it's about the size of a 7 series..

rublazar
May 28, 2008 8:47 PM
Hey Momentumporsche, I also sell Porsches in Spain, where are you from?

mps
May 29, 2008 9:52 AM
Gonna ask him his A/s/l? :p

foose1397
May 28, 2008 8:18 PM
Wow, this is one of the most intelligent boards in a while. GTR? no relevance, good to here that some one sale Porsches (cave man ug).

The Porsche will sell because of its name. The Cayenne got slammed like this when it first came out as well. The panamera is for sure not the most pretty of cars but designers did a good job blending porsches iconic shape. For me, i think the new Aston is more attractive, but i will bet that this drives a slight bit better.

The average person doesn't need this car (not the average price, duh). Its meant for the wealthy man or women who wants a car that drives not to be driven in

pzigly
May 28, 2008 8:26 PM
First off the nissan already pushes over 500 hp. Nissan always understates its HP on this car and they are already working on one that will have over 530hp from a V6. There are so many more people that will buy a GTR over your 911 anyday. The GTR is faster, more reliable, made with more technology, and the engine is in the right place. You can also tune up your GTR as you like with out killing your bank account on parts. In the GTR you dont have to worry about the rear end fishtailing if you hit a turn a little too hard. Over here we are car enthusiasts and not people who care about only looks but performance as well. Do we judge Toyota less when they make a car like the Lexus LS460 while also making a yaris? No, because they are made with different care and different materials. In a Nissan like this you know you are getting a reliable car along with speed because of the name. In the Nissan you will have so much more fun with out hurting your self or your bank account. Honestly, when ever I see a Porsche now, I dont give it a second glance (unless its a carerra GT of course). If I see a Infinity G37, a 350Z, or a GTR on the road I see fun and excitement.

csrado
May 29, 2008 4:14 AM
Seriously, stop with the GTR statements, how old are you?

pzigly
May 28, 2008 8:31 PM
And another thing. Nissan has already sold out cars they haven't even made yet. I dont see porsche doing that. In finland the mark up on a "Nissan" is well over double the MSRP price. I cant see porsche doing that. And the "Nissan" has already beat the porsche at just about every performance figure.

NISMO
May 28, 2008 8:34 PM
this thing is an abomination

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 9:43 PM
MMMM we sell out of cars 3 and 3 years in advance genius.. 07 and 08 turbos had a waiting list in 05.. I have to get out of this conversation.. Im speaking to people that are defending a Nissan .. it's fast.. thats it!! so is a vette .. Porsche just made it's 500,000 Cayenne, and Porsche is the most profitable car company OF ALL!! go do your homework and get back to me Nissan boy.. and let me guess.. you drive a saturn and your eh 19? " Over here we are car enthusiasts and not people who care about only looks but performance as well" over where.. I live in the US.. and performance over style? Porsche has never sold out and has only evolved their vehicle over the years to maintain tradition and heritage.. never seeling out to the extreme looks and styling that everyone else is.. Did anyone see the 24 HR nurburing? HMMMM Porsche took what the first 10 spots thats right 1st place baby.. as they have in many many many races and events over decades.. Do I hate the GTR nope.. cool car.. is in the same class of auto engineering as Porsche.. HELL NO.. did you really compare jap. engineering to Porsche? Pllllllllease do your homework and get back to me.. We already have a 189 person waiting list for the Panamera and we dont even know what the hell it looks like.. sold out of 07 and 08 Turbo/turbo cabs/gt3/gt3RS/and GT2 before they were even available.. the GT2 and GT3 RS are going and have gone for over $70k over sticker genius.. Nissan has navigation in dash cd changers and blue tooth.. thats awesome.. what a car!! LOL

porsche08
May 28, 2008 9:53 PM
I would probably like the GTR if I was on a budget too, or had no taste in true performance automobiles!!!! Panamera will be awesome, just like all the Porsches from the past!!!

pzigly
May 28, 2008 9:59 PM
The Nissan is not just a fast car! anyone can make a fast car. The Nissan out handles the Porsche on every track!!!! And they did it with one car!! and for the exception for the GT those cars that you talk about have not gone over 165k sticker US like the Nissan. The Nissan is a more balanced car. That why you can take it out in any weather. Nissan has entered the races already with the GTR and have won every race. They are starting to get in the race world with the GTR. Onece the V6 starts entering races you can see porsche go to second.

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 10:03 PM
Out handles the Porsche.. Dude.. did you really just say the nissan is a more blananced car? and home skillet.. I sold 3 GT3 RS vehicle in Nov. for over 80k above MSRP.. i've been in this business for 10 years how long have you bee...eee...n how wait.. you havent!! i have to leave now the ignorance is wearing on my personaltiy and train of thought.. take care mr. nissan..

pzigly
May 28, 2008 10:10 PM
O and I drive a 3.5 v6 nissan stick, that will beat any german car in its class in performance. If I had the money I would never go for porsche. I would be looking at something Italian like a f430 or the new alfa. Things that have more class and dont blend in. The only think that might make a porsche look different it that gigantic wing that you guys put.

pzigly
May 28, 2008 10:15 PM
Just because u have been in business longer doesnt mean you have the superior product. The GTR has proven it self time and time again. It was aimed to beat the 911. Ur just arrogant and cant believe that a "Nissan" can beat you. All these discussions will be settled on the track. Ill see what you say in a year or 2 when more track results come in. The evo GTR will out run your best porsche in a straight and on any track.

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 10:20 PM
2008 Porsche 911 carrera S $90k - 2008 Ferrari F430 265,000.00 and $30k over sticker..hmmmmm???? again.. do your homework.. and get out of a board that involves people who can afford 90-400,000 cars.. go drive your 6 speed Nissan that you got a bobs motors.. You make me laugh.. thanks for the entertainment.. and oh.. did you happen to see the 19 magazine articles about the 08 GT2? do some reading and get back to me.. no wait.. DONT!! anyway those who care.. the 09 911 will be bad azz.. we are getting PDK a 7 speed dual clutch w/ paddle shifter.. 20 more horses. direct injection.. ventilated seating. LED like the Carrera GT($440,000.00) blue tooth, new front fascia, new side mirrors, center console, touch screen navigation, MP3. new "19 wheel , and much more.. should be exciting.

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 10:22 PM
and my friend.. the GTR just came out.. how long have they been working on it.. took them 6 years since first talking about it and its still not out.. Porsche will continue to rise and rise and rise and over achieve .. their engineering will always super exceed anything nissan does..

pzigly
May 28, 2008 10:44 PM
It has already come out in Japan. EVERY TIME NISSAN COMES OUT WITH A GTR THEY BEAT ALL PORSCHES ON THE TRACK!!!!! Just to let you know. The skyline has been beating every 911 since the early 90's!!!! They only used to sell them in Japan and thats probably why you dont know this.

pzigly
May 28, 2008 10:40 PM
lol the GTR already has duel clutch and already has more horse power and has the engine in the front and the transmission in the back for balance. Touch screen nav that was developed by Polyphony and tells you 3 different tempratures in the engine alone. Is has over 5 screens to inform you about the performance of your vehicle. Nissan has double clutch and shifts almost as fast as a F1 car. It has 20 inch rims that had tires specially developed for the car. You know nothing about the GTR and how it has already beat in on the Ring.

Just because I dont have enough money because im still 23 doesnt make me have any less of an opinion or care about admire, and study cars any less. I bought my car through hard work from scratch and on my own. To make fun of me for this just makes you a prick. I think you need to do your homework and look out side the box because if you dont, you wont see the underdog pulling up behind you in your rear view passing you.

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 11:04 PM
yeah a base 911 nothing above that a GTR can touch.. anyway.. go away..

porsche08
May 28, 2008 11:11 PM
pt_porsche, you are kind of a prick, pick on someone your own size!!! everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we all know that dosent make their opinion right!!!! pzigly, dont let him get to you, but you are trying to compare apples to oranges, nissan will never be a compareable car to Porsche, its like comparing a Bently to a toyota.....

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 11:19 PM
Porsche08- why dont you you and Nissan boy go on a date in his awesome 6 speed xterra LOL I do beleive everyone has an opinion but only after I give it to them!! ( evil laugh )

pzigly
May 28, 2008 11:23 PM
For your information im talking about the 911 turbo. The GT-R did a 7 min 29 sec on the Nürburgring Ring the TURBO 911 did it in 7 min 40 sec. This is a direct quote from World car Fans: The world can now look forward to a response from the GT-R's main competitor, the Porsche 911 Turbo whose best time stands at a lowly 7 minutes and 40 seconds. Also to make you crap in your pants a little more WCF reports: The Nissan GT-R development team has made another run at the Nürburgring record books this morning--and the Porsche 911 Turbo is no longer its target. Sources intimately familiar with Nissan's latest test sessions inform us that the group is now gunning to beat the Porsche Carrera GT--a remarkably lofty goal considering that that Walter Röhrl reportedly piloted a Carrera GT around the 'Ring in 7 minutes 28 seconds. Another Carrera GT, driven by Horst von Saurma, managed a lap time of 7:32.

The GT will go faster 0-60, but the GTR will catch up in the corners.

porsche08
May 28, 2008 11:28 PM
pt_porsche, I would, but I am on my way to pick up your old lady, you know i like that thing she does with her tounge.....its AWESOME!!!!!!!

pt_porsche
May 28, 2008 11:48 PM
has anyone seen that Hyndaui Genesis? that baby is sweet!

alessandro
June 1, 2008 8:58 PM
No but I saw the MB S from inside and front ant BMW 7-series from back but GENESIS is very christian, like that piano player who plays by left hand have not clue what exactly right hand is about.

porsche08
May 28, 2008 11:52 PM
pt_porsche.........you my friend are a douche bag.......

pzigly
May 28, 2008 11:55 PM
First off that car is no where near what we are talking about. U trash Nissan because of a badge, but you forget that the base of which you car has evolved from is a VW BUG!!!!!!

THERENAISSANCEMAN
May 29, 2008 9:04 AM
ha ha ha haaa. the 356 used parts from the Bug too...

odysseus
May 29, 2008 12:02 AM
i see: it's time for popcorn! *LOL* :D

porsche08
May 29, 2008 12:08 AM
is he still talking about nissan?

porsche08
May 29, 2008 12:09 AM
i typed in GERMANCARFANS.COM and it forwarded to this page.. GERMAN CAR FANS not japanized cheap affordable cars that everyone in their grandmother will have.. tell himto please stop talking.. im getting hemeroids!!

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 12:12 AM
preperation H rocks!

porsche08
May 29, 2008 12:13 AM
sorry, my stupid co worker jumped on my computer....

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 12:14 AM
excuse me can I have your attention please.. will the real sport car please stand up please stand up:

24hr Nurburing:

The Manthey Porsche 911 GT3-RSR (#1) and Manthey Porsche 911 GT3-MR (#23) made team boss and former DTM driver, Olaf Manthey, a very proud man as they crossed the finish line in one-two formation. This victory marks Manthey as the only team in the history of the race to win three consecutive years adding to wins in 2006 and 2007. ?This hat-trick of victories is the crowning glory of my career as a team boss,? beamed Olaf Manthey, but it was not without incident as the yellow and green number 1 Porsche plunged into the pits on the first lap as a result of a fault in the cooling system. With no other problems to follow, the GT3-RSR worked its way through the field to capture lead position at 03:30 in the morning. The second place 911 GT3-MR is no stranger to victory as this car won in 2006 for Manthey. Third place went to Frikadelli Porsche piloted by Klaus Abbelen, Dr Edgar Althoff and Kenneth Heyer along with notable two-time Nürburgring 24h winner, Sabine Schmitz, who is also famous for her BMW M5 Nürburgring taxi rides and appearing in TV episodes of ?Top Gear?. As the only woman to make it to the podium, Schmitz is widely held as the most successful female driver in the history of endurance racing.

Elsewhere on the track, other high profile contenders such as the Volkswagen works team and their racing version of the yet to be released Scirocco paid off as it claimed class victory and impressively finished eleventh overall. The second Volkswagen works team Scirocco GT24 finish second and 14th overall.

Bad news for the Sport Auto Audi R8 contender. After an accident on the second qualify session the previous day, the R8 unfortunately never made it to the starting grid. As a competitor in the Porsche 997 dominated SP7 class with the likes of the Manthey 911 cars, it could have made for a different outcome. The Sport Auto Audi R8 vows to return.

Also turning heads was former Formula One driver, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, and his hybrid-powered Gumpert Apollo. Eleven minutes into the race, the transmission malfunctioned which resulted in no forward drive. With hopes of finishing the race gone and anticipation of a huge repair time, Gumpert technicians pressed on and finally fixed the Apollo. With the support of race officials, Frentzen managed to get back on the track for the final 90 minutes. Frentzen at the finish. ?You can look at our result in two ways. On the one hand, we had two lots of problems with the gearbox in the conventional drive system. But, from a different perspective, the brake energy regeneration concept exceeded our expectations.? Aston Martin was another big winner making the best-ever finish at the Nürburgring 24 Hours with three V8 Vantage N24's taking the top three positions in the class.

pzigly
May 29, 2008 12:20 AM
So what we know all this. Nissan only had a 350z there. The results would be alot different if there was a skyline or a GTR there.

porsche08
May 29, 2008 12:27 AM
This dude is hung up on the GTR

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 12:28 AM
thats because he cant afford it..

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 12:29 AM
evolved from a VW bug? boy you know all about Porsches heritage and tradition .. NOT .. dude put the pipe down bro.. put the pipe down! What did the Nissan come from? Godzillas ass?

pzigly
May 29, 2008 12:35 AM
O ya that was a good come back. Australians came up with Godzilla because Nissan GTR was beating all of their cars in every race. This car won 50 races within 3 years when it first came out in the late 60's.

pzigly
May 29, 2008 12:29 AM
And ur all hung up on a car thats rear end looks like a dog before its about to do its business in the grass.

porsche08
May 29, 2008 12:30 AM
If I payed oversticker, no over $30K for a GTR I would have to kick my own ass!!!

porsche08
May 29, 2008 12:32 AM
you should know what the rear end looks like, as long as you drive nissans, that is what you will see the back end ...

pzigly
May 29, 2008 12:41 AM
LOL ur funny, but i think u need to look at the facts. While ur rear engine bug is fishtailing its rear end, nissan will be passing by waiving its LED rear lights at ur BUG.

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 12:47 AM
I cant wait till that Nissan Sentra R super GT fast back 4 door AWD sling door rear wing skyline sky roof extended cab comes out.. that baby is gonna smoke Porsche..

pzigly
May 29, 2008 12:55 AM
U see the thing is ur precious 911 was actually started from a bug. The GTR wasnt started from a sentra ever. So basically u have nothing else to say constructive that actually makes sense.

pzigly
May 29, 2008 12:58 AM
The new GTR wasnt based on anything. It is brand new unlike the 911. Which is why they can come out with a suped up version every year.

porsche08
May 29, 2008 1:03 AM
the 911 is a design that they got right the first time, seriously, what has nissan ever done that comes close???

pzigly
May 29, 2008 8:19 AM
The old gtr's...............

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 1:08 AM
I cant freaking wait till that 2010 Datsun GTR comes out.. You know the Datsun the car that all Nissans were born from.. lol OK.. new subject.. any hot ladies in da houuuuse? haha

pzigly
May 29, 2008 2:13 AM
So we hav established so far that Nissan came from Datsun, porsche came out of a bug, a butterfly come out of a worm, and Bill Gates went to community college. Now we have final products. Our final products raced head to head show us that the GTR is in front of the pack. It might not have a luxury interior, but its purpose is to get the job done. Ive been in the GTR. Its not as bad as u think.

pzigly
May 29, 2008 2:14 AM
The Nissan wins every race. Take a look at the latest motortrend race and you will see. Its on video and in writing.

porsche08
May 29, 2008 2:51 AM
Call me when you get your GTR.....We can line them up anyday

pzigly
May 29, 2008 2:56 AM
lol in a few years when the premium on it goes down a bit. I also want to wait till the lighter one comes out cuz 3800 pounds is too much. A lighter GTR with 550 hp will kill any porsche.

radmeister
May 29, 2008 4:37 AM
I love this Porsche, looks real nice and will defiantly sell well.

andy
May 29, 2008 6:42 AM
WTF...how come you guys could make so many comments in 2 days around this car .???..leave it alone till it comes .please.

dmanero
May 29, 2008 6:45 AM
You know the 4 door Porsche ain't all that bad, love the look of the front, not so much favoring the rear

mps
May 29, 2008 10:02 AM
pt_porsche- For someone that supposedly sells porsches for a decade and is supposedly successful at it... you sure type like an idi0t.

michelin901
May 29, 2008 10:10 AM
gtr is a dumb lookn car. Porsche ne day

pzigly
May 29, 2008 10:14 AM
good one you sound very educated and you have a vast knowledge.

mps
May 29, 2008 10:31 AM
Yah n d cadilak eskelade wid it 2

122
May 29, 2008 2:59 PM
people that argue over porsches and GTRs are just plain dumb. Before you terrorise the site with biased arguments, ask yourself what are you really getting out of it?

pzigly
May 29, 2008 10:21 PM
Y do we make all these comments? Why do we sit here and argue? So when it comes time to buy one of these cars, we know what to buy. When ur at the race track and some one wants to race you, you know what their car is capable of. And when I win, I get money and bragging rights lol. I BEAT A PORSCHE WITH A NISSAN!!!! lol "evil laugh" Its just a discussion and sometimes it gets personal lol. We know the GTR has nothing to do with this car, but we just got off on a tangent.

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 5:21 PM
MPS- I called my 8th grade typing coach and boy did I give her words.. DUMB ASS.. itz bada enougha I be comin in hur al da days and spending times.. but laste thingy i carz abouts is spelled checkem.. glad you have the time to go and correct strangers typing abilities.. and we all know.. typing and selling Porsche and being successful go hand in hand.. now go play candy land little boy!

mps
May 29, 2008 7:12 PM
Was pointing out that for someone who is supposedly a reasnoble adult and somewhat successful, you sure seem like a 12 year old prick.

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 5:22 PM
Get his GTR? come on porsche 08..

pt_porsche
May 29, 2008 5:23 PM
MPS writes:"Yah n d cadilak eskelade wid it 2 " no comment.. I cant even coment

mps
May 29, 2008 7:13 PM
You just did.

Schizo0223
May 30, 2008 6:17 AM
Dammit...no more feedbacks? I read through the whole argument...it was one of the most entertaining trails of feedbacks I've read in awhile.

Forgive me in advance since I could come off as being a bit snobbish.

The GTR is a nice car...I have friends that drive the R33 and R34 GTR's...phenomenal performance for the money and very easily tuned...but drive the Porshce and the GTR and compare the dynamics of the GTR to a Porsche and you'll buy the Porsche.

Over 50 years of experience of developing a sports car and all the track work they have done just cannot be overcome by hyper engineering.

It's the same as hiring experienced workers because they can provide you with the extra 2% that is needed to get the work done rather than comparatively inexpensive studious work-aholic.

Also, in the real world, when someone is about to spend his hard earned money and become owner of a car (especially in the upper price ranges) they do not buy the car just for the performance. That's just like choosing your girlfriend based on her specs (breast & waist size...I've seen that happen and the relationship does no last too long.)

The decisions that you have to make when buying a car that's in the $100k range is a lot different than the set of decisions you need to make when you buy a $20-30k dollar car. There are more tactile and emotional things to consider...and the GTR just doesn't cut it. If a friend of mine told me he was going to buy a GTR...I'd tell him to buy an EVO and invest the rest instead.

pzigly
May 30, 2008 7:55 AM
You cant compare what the r33 and r34 did in the past. The r35 is completely different than the older skylines. This new one is based on a coupe platform. All other skylines were based on sedan platforms. Your right the dynamics of the r33 and r34 were not as good as the 911 back then eventhough the skylines were still able to beat them on the track even back then.

This GTR is so different which is why they spent over 6 years making it. The only thing people seem to give the edge to the porsche is in steering feel, but i feel a lighter GTR will remedy that. The new GTR feels sooo much better than the old ones, ive been in it, it feels nice and expensive and feels good on the road. Honestly, If you saw a GTR and a porsche comming down the road, more people will go to the GTR.

The new GTR can not be compared to the evo. Its a supercar. You can compare it to the r33 or the r34 but not the GTR at all. Its so much more faster at the limit and more agile.

The GTR has a higher limit than the Porsche, faster than the porsche and can out handle the porsche. Everyone that has driven it has liked it over the porsche on the road and on the track.

mps
May 30, 2008 12:50 PM
And also, Porsches are not really a rarity, so you would be getting way more attention with the GTR, if you go for that that is. For me, it's a better car at a lower price. So why would I buy a "Porschua"?

pt_porsche
May 30, 2008 10:42 PM
The GTR is a YUGO kit car.. YUGO didnt want you to know!!

pzigly
May 30, 2008 11:29 PM
Y do u comment when u dont even know what the GTR is. a kit car wouldnt be 3800 lbs, wouldnt have nav, wouldn't be stable and quiet at 150 mph. U just dont know what ur talking about.

porsche08
May 30, 2008 11:07 PM
Its still a NISSAN!!!!! I would rather rip my dick off and throw it in the street than drive a GTR!!!!

pzigly
May 30, 2008 11:30 PM
what do u drive now?

pzigly
May 30, 2008 11:48 PM
Thats y ur so biased, spending that much money I would be defending my purchase too....

porsche08
May 31, 2008 12:12 AM
defending my purchase??? not quite, money is not the object, its all about the car my friend...

pzigly
May 31, 2008 12:00 AM
O and if you think the GTR is just another production Nissan, its not. Its actually hand built in Japan. Thats why it hasnt come out everywhere yet.

pzigly
May 31, 2008 12:33 AM
ur just closed minded. U only know nissan USA. U have never experienced a real Nissan or what nissan has done. Here are 2 examples: http://www.supercars.net/cars/1391.html http://chrisnz.com/nissan-nismo-skyline-gt-r-r34-z-tune/

porsche08
May 31, 2008 12:45 AM
Its a great car, for being japanese, but like I said, its like comparing apples to oranges...we can agree to disagree, or keep going back and forth.....

porsche08
May 31, 2008 12:46 AM
Nissan can build a 2000hp supercar that sets every world record, and to me it would still just be a nissan....

racsozelev
May 31, 2008 2:16 PM
you have a badge problem. sure you´ve sticked calvin kleyn´s badge to your underwear....

let the rest play on the same league, we need some fresh air. not everything has to be porsche, audi or bmw. i really like the GTR, it has the charm of the newcomer. great lines, great engine, has everything to proof, cannot sleep on its legend. i like that.

pzigly
May 31, 2008 1:16 AM
I guess people born before the 80's feel the same way....cuz new nissan is totally different than old nissan.

pzigly
May 31, 2008 4:25 AM
lol still a vw beetle.....

porsche08
May 31, 2008 5:48 PM
LOL still 60 years of perfection cant be wrong!!!

pzigly
May 31, 2008 9:11 PM
Perfection?????? I dont think so. You will never have perfection with that engine being where it is. It has to be mid rear or mid front. Where porsche has it now will get the back end loose all the time. This is why a heavier car like the GTR came in and can out handle it. The GTR has a higher limit at the corners and can correct your problems if you make a mistake. Its 60 years of hard heads trying to make something work that physics wont allow. I admit if that car had a midrear engine, it would probably out handle the GTR as porsche would be working on a more sucessful setup.

mps
June 2, 2008 10:19 AM
Porsche would also double the price though.

porsche08
June 2, 2008 6:46 PM
obviously you have never driven on on the track, so it would discredit your "knowledge" on either vehicle. If the engine placement was an issue where it is located now, trust me it would have been addressed by now....Do your homework.

pzigly
June 8, 2008 1:47 AM
what r u talking about? Almost every car reviewer says the engine is in the wrong place.....

pzigly
May 31, 2008 9:15 PM
Just do me a favor so you dont get a heart attack or so I dont see you depressed later... Please, never bet money on your car or put the pink slip on the line if a GTR guy asks you to race him.

alessandro
June 1, 2008 9:06 PM
Did you finally decide what car is better Porsche or Nissan? HAHAHAHAHAaa....

gtrs09
June 3, 2008 1:28 AM
schizo0223- "If a friend of mine told me he was going to buy a GTR...I'd tell him to buy an EVO and invest the rest instead."

what a great comment... no matter which car you buy you are going to get superb performance and you're not going to be upset over which one you buy.

If somebody asks you what car you drive and you answer "A Nissan," who cares? If the same person asks you what car you drive and you answer "A Porsche," there would be a completely different response. Porsche has always been a much more superior car than Nissan in many ways. Although Porsche has a long racing history, you cannot ignore how good the Nissan GTR performs on the racetrack and how much time the engineers have put into developing this car.

gtrs09
June 3, 2008 2:09 AM
Sports Activity Coupe... not Vehicle

mps
June 3, 2008 1:25 PM
If somebody asks you what car you drive and you answer "Nissan" and then he asks you which one, you say "GT-R" that would pretty much clarify it all.

Joe_Limon
June 3, 2008 1:30 AM
wow, some Porsche douche bags, now this site has every kind of German faithful. Why don't you guys start a religion dedicated towards your beliefs that anything that isn't made geographically in Germany will never be up to par with stuff made geographically in Germany.

gtrs09
June 3, 2008 1:54 AM
by the way this car looks amazing from the front.. the rear however is a little questionable. Even though it keeps the traditional porsche style in the rear it doesn't really fit the sedan for me.

Porsche has finally made a car that somebody can buy and actually drive their whole family in (with everybody feeling comfortable) and still feel like he/she is driving a Porsche.

And for the people who say this car is terrible are you fricken kidding me? Are you seriously going to dis Porsche for trying to enter into a different part of the automotive market? Even if this car isn't up to par with the others in its class it is still a porsche. There wasn't somebody when Porsche started making cars that said you cannot make a sedan or an suv! You must stick to coupe racing cars! The X6 is a good example.. not the greatest looking car but BMW will sell every single one of them made. And the car is the first in its class (Sports Activity Vehicle) so you have nothing to compare the looks of it to. I'm sure other car companies will make cars to compete with the X6.

gtrs09
June 3, 2008 2:10 AM
oops that reply from above was meant to go here

pt_porsche
June 3, 2008 6:44 PM
hey joe_limon... You like it in the butt huh? Let me guess.. You drive a cute little sky blue prius.. YOU GO SUGAR YOU GO!!!

pzigly
June 4, 2008 11:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gRaO69vfuU

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