Audi to introduce new 350hp Supercharged Engine for New S4 and Facelifted A6

by Clinton Deacon
April 28, 2008 1:04 PM
Filed Under: Audi, German, Spy Photos

The ever intuitive folks over at Auto Motor und Sport have uncovered the first details that Audi are working on a new engine for the new generation S4. The new Supercharged 3.0T FSI V6 powerplant is reported to pump out 350 horsepower and will replace the 340hp 4.2-liter V8 found in the current generation.

The new V6 engine will consume significantly less fuel than the outgoing powertrain and weight reduction further enhances the performance. A detuned 290hp version will initially debut in the A6 facelift later this year, it will also make its way to the Audi S5 and Q5 models sometime in the future.

The photos show prototypes for the new S4 and A6 facelift whilst undergoing winter testing earlier this year.

Source: Auto Motor und Sport

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motoriety27

April 28, 2008 1:16 PM

wait. supercharged or turbocharged? title says one thing, while the article says another.

afterace2

April 28, 2008 1:21 PM

exactly, I guess they meant turbocharged, cause i don't think Audi is going to use superchargers. Still, 350 bhp from 3 liters is preety impressive IMO.

motoriety27

April 28, 2008 1:27 PM

yeah, it's quite a feat. I'm betting that the S4's gonna blow away BMW's 335i when it comes out.

clinton

April 28, 2008 1:42 PM

Sorry for the error, my german skills deserted me for a while, it is actually "Supercharged".

kevoluetion

April 28, 2008 2:31 PM

motoriety27, it already does, just takes time for people to register that.

ceven

April 28, 2008 2:32 PM

Umm... but "T" still indicates "turbo", right?

350bhp out of 2 litres would be impressive. But then they'd also shorten some car's lives. :D

sub39h

April 28, 2008 2:41 PM

turbos are are a type of supercharger, strictly speaking

benz_man

April 28, 2008 9:35 PM

No they're not. Turbochargers make "free" horsepower from waist exhaust heat. Superchargers are spun off the engine crank, losing efficiency as revolutions per minute increase...

sub39h

April 29, 2008 2:35 AM

benz_man, a "supercharger" is any device that uses compressed air to increase air delivery to the combustion chambers. whether it's driven off the crank or by exhaust gases is irrelevant. it's still a supercharger in it's strictest definition

ceven

April 29, 2008 2:46 PM

Hello again.

German mag AMS says it's gonna be supercharged ( :D ) by putting a compressor in.

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_511977_13987.hbs

This makes me think that "3.0 TFSI" might may be mildly irritating.

The_woo_factor

April 28, 2008 2:30 PM

BMW killers

Speedoholic

April 28, 2008 2:49 PM

That's why BMW sales are much higher

kevoluetion

April 29, 2008 9:15 AM

So? Toyota beats BMW in sales, your point?

xenomorph

April 30, 2008 12:37 PM

BMW sells more but Audis profits are way higher than BMW and Mercedes. Its interesting that it works out like that but it does.

foose1397

April 28, 2008 3:30 PM

Finally someone is heading in the right direction. SMALLER ENGINES. This proves that we can get more than enough power out of v6, why to go audi

ceven

April 28, 2008 3:44 PM

Didn't the old RS(2?) have a 6-cylinder turbocharged engine, too?

davidkoulakis

April 28, 2008 4:30 PM

the B5 RS4 had a 2.7 twin turbo V6

ceven

April 28, 2008 5:08 PM

HP? 380?

pscs

April 28, 2008 4:45 PM

can anyone tell me the benefits of detuning an engine? is it for fuel efficiency?

ceven

April 28, 2008 5:08 PM

That and a longer life span.

_M7_

April 28, 2008 7:33 PM

turbo or charger it still a bad car Â´cause Audis are too heavy!!! like an american car, termodinamic eficiency and weight relacion are 2 thinks a real engiener must know...learn some from the GTR Vspect

ceven

April 28, 2008 8:46 PM

I just googled the supposed V-Spec kerb weight that is 1,490-1,590 kg (according to different sources), which doesn't make it all light.

I recently drove the A4 sedan with a diesel engine and it did weight 1,465 kg.

quattro and the 3.0 litre engine might up the weight a bit, as may other kit, but it's still not a heavy car.

Go figure.

norther

April 28, 2008 10:24 PM

supercharger...turbocharger....whatever. it's gonna be a great car. oh, btw,. ceven, u said about de 2.0 L 350, well..there is. on that special edtion Seat Leon..rally edition i mean. it has the 2.0 l vw engine, turbocharged, 330 bhp. and there are also audi a3's with the 2.0 l with 300 bhp. of course, note standard but...there are. the 2.0l engine is a great engine, small, economical (in an extent), it can be very easily modified..

ceven

April 29, 2008 5:31 PM

I know there are engines around with a displacement/hp ratio like that, but mostly they aren't the production cars you get in the end.

One of the most weird outcomings of turbocharging was probably the Suzuki Escudi Pike's Peak. xD

Schizo0223

April 29, 2008 4:24 AM

My old Merc C32 had a Supercharged V6. Just change the crank pulley for a nominal fee and you're good for another 50hp! I love supercharged engines. Although you end up losing some pep in the high rev ranges they're great for street driving. Good move Audi...

radmeister

April 29, 2008 5:48 AM

Could be twin charged, supercharged and turbo. A small supercharger for low end power and a big turbo for high boost. VW has that setup i believe on the 1.6L or 1.3 i forget. Nissan did it 10 years ago so its possible.

afterace2

April 29, 2008 3:27 PM

i guess You mean the 1.4 TSI engine

NaBUru38

April 30, 2008 6:10 PM

The next RS6 deserves a "twincharged" 3.0 V6.

NaBUru38

April 30, 2008 6:16 PM

Sorry, I meant the RS4.

wisp

April 29, 2008 10:45 AM

350bhp = 260Kw i believe. The question of sprint and top end speed should be in the way the power band is spread coz some cars have been known to kick ass as from as low as 1,500 revs all the way up to say 4,000 to 5,000 revs. Further more some have been known to have high torque and bhp but then thier cahsis should be able top manage all that power. This whole thiong is like various puzzles that you have to balance just so you get it right. Let's wait and see.

tootall

May 8, 2008 2:06 AM

Good move with reducing the overall amount of pistons Audi, cause I think it just dose not make much sense to detune an engine of that size (4.2L), only to stuff into a car that size (RS4). Only because you would still have all that weight from the detuned 4.2L. So.... Good job on that. However, to me, it would have been better if the source of the force induction was via turbo. The 3.0L TFSI engine is not bad by itself anyway.

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