New Mercedes 4-Cylinder Diesel Engine

Not so bad. Well, they had to if wanting to compete with BMW's *23d. :D Where's Audi? D: I recently drove the 170hp 2.0 TDI A4 and got overtaken by a Mini JC Works GP. D:

Pretty good- 204 bhp from a 2.1 diesel, a 2 litre diesel wouldn't have got you anywhere 20 years ago. Would it fit in an A-class? A hot diesel 3 door A-class would be quite cool.

How can they quote fuel consumption numbers? They will vary drastically according to the car they put it in.

sounds good, especially they've made 3 engines out of 1. WCF you forgot to put the fuel consumption on the table...

BMW 318d 143 hp, 300 Nm, 1995cc³, 4 cylinders BMW 320d 177 hp, 350 Nm, 1995cc³, 4 cylinders BMW 323d 204 hp, 420 Nm, 1995cc³, 4 cylinders (August 2008)

"TDI technology and Audi/VW are by far on the top when it comes to diesel!" - yeah right, who is copying who with the Bluetec technology? ;)

ght - what a great argument !

SD-AMG - You must be kidding right? Care to share some information of how Audi is copying MB? That would be very entertaining as well. Statement like that would need to be backed up by some facts right? Or its just your humble opinion?

(( Mercedes celebrates the 150th anniversary of Rudolf Diesel's birthday )) That's great .. Germany is great !!

It is pretty stupid to argue who is better, who have more power, Nm, bla, bla, bla... Every of "golden three" (how I call Mercedes, BMW and Audi) have their own place in diesel history, and every of them have its own period of time when it has slightly "better" diesel engine or engines, with a little bit more horse power or torque... I very welcome every effort of those three giants to bring new, fresh, better diesel engines... Competition is the best thing for us, costumers... Mercedes is, and it always be, extremely important in diesel engine market. For good connoisseur of automotive industry there is no need to talk about that...

wow the mechanical and electrical on this engine looks like a nightmare to work with!

Very very short torque band.. What's the point of 500nm when you only have it across 200rpm?

Put this motor in the new C-class and ship it to US !!! Please !!!

Lighter,faster,smaller,better mpg,7-speed auto or paddle shifters,multi clutches,I don't think we need to worry about short torque bands!!!

wow. new engine from mercedes (finally). how exciting. and would you look at their names 200, 220, 250...but wait, they have the same CC. damn they're smart. SD-AMG, i think mercedes are 2-3 engine generations behind VW/AUDI. they didn't built anything new..since...since....well, heck nows. and despite the 201 BHP (careful boys 200 AND ONE bhp) i doubt it's better than a 2.0 TDI 170 bhp. come on now, everybody knows TDI is king in the diesel world. i just cant imagine how stupid it sounds, saying: "uuu, ive got the new 220/250 cdi...and its a 2 L". when's mb gonna drop this crap

so what if they were selliing diesels in the 30s? u mean to say even those were better than the current TDIs? :)))).... and the bluetec technology, is one of the lamest. personaly, i dont like any hybrid.

You need to consider everyday driving conditions. The engine produces 400+ N-m (within 20% of upper limit) from ~1300 to ~3300 RPM, which is pretty nifty.

LETS SEE LIGHTER,MORE HORSEPOWER,MORE TORQUE,LESS CU. IN.,COOLER ENGINE TEMP.,NO TURBO LAG, SEEMS NONSENCE TO TALK ABOUT SMALL TORQUE BAND WIDTH.what do you want an F-50?

More so now than in the past Mercedes, BMW and Audi share many of the same Tier 1 suppliers with the EXACT same hardware. The differences in the product being in the software. To state that one is "the king" or "generations ahead" is ludicrous now. I'm astonished to see manufacturers pulling such high HP and TQ numbers from such small engine sizes. Engine efficiency is WAY up and the consumer gets the prize. Good power, good fuel mileage, clean emissions! Radmeister, you're spot-on. The Tq curve is a little peaky for an oil-burner, but thats only to be expected of such a small engine. However, most (more than 50%) of it is available just off idle. Which, combined with a small, high pressure engine that revs quickly (for a diesel) and the correct gearing (how can you mess up with 7 ratios?) has the potential be just about perfect. lol

How cool!! This engine as exactly the same power figures as the 123d: 204HP. Isn't that suspicious?