Consider you could build a car that could easily count on 720 cv. Would you limit its power to a mere 680 cv? Well, Mercedes-Benz not only would, it will, according to AutoWeek. They have obtained insiders information about the new top-of-the-line SL-Class and this is precisely the output these sources have indicated the car will have.
With such a powerful engine, the SL AMG Black Series will defy its own bigger brother, the SLR 722, which counts on a 5.4-litre V8 engine that generates 650 cv. This is very likely the best explanation for the power limit imposed to the Black Series engine, the same 6-litre V12 used for the SL 65 AMG. The SLR will get a replacement in 2010, theSLC, and, in respect for hierarchy, it should be more powerful than any other Mercedes-Benz. Therefore, these 720 cv (or more) must be reserved for it.
Besides this huge output, the new SL AMG Black Series will feature aesthetical changes, along with aerodynamic improvements, and will be released, according to AutoWeek, in July, during the German F1 Grand Prix.
AutoWeek also discovered AMG plans to add two turbochargers to its 6.2-litre V8, but the goal is not to have a more powerful unit. Instead, it is to create better conditions for the adoption of direct fuel injection, a system that is becoming more and more common even in cheaper cars, such as VW Passat, in order to save petrol.
Mercedes-Benz SL AMG Black Series Could Reach 720hp
But Only 680 cv Will Be Offered
By Gustavo Henrique Ruffo
March 15, 2008 9:09 PM
Filed Under: German, Mercedes-Benz, Spy Photos
Comments
ck314
March 15, 2008 9:31 PM
It's about time they updated their V8 and V12 blocks to DI like everyone else is doing (BMW, Audi, Lexus...)
_M7_
March 16, 2008 2:05 AM
its easy to get that power whit mechanical help, the thing is get all that power to the weels an mercedes is not to good doing that
edwinproxp
March 16, 2008 8:23 AM
M7 I totally agree with your comment on how Mercedes sucks in making the car get traction. This is especially true these days, where they are putting a 6 liter engine into a C class. It's just wrong.... And also look at the spy video of the SLC whenever the driver tries to exit the corner with speed the tail immediately loses traction.
ck314
March 16, 2008 4:52 PM
the main problem is that they have refused to include a limited slip differential (even in the slr), but things are starting to change: the c63 can have lsd and thicker rollbars on demand, and same should apply to this black series/upcoming slc.. then again, what's wrong with controlled drift?? if you want boring straight line power get yourself a subaru forester turbo
wisp
March 17, 2008 7:38 AM
Is this the same car they used in Formula 1 (Aussie Gp) yesterday as a safety car? It looked good i must say. Merc is all about grunt - maybe they should try all wheel and it might just work for them on traction seeing that for so many years they have failed to understand how to channel all that power via rear wheels into the road with very litle spin. Their cars burn rubber like 'what!'
norther
March 17, 2008 4:22 PM
yeah..that, respect for hierarchy, the sl black series is limited to 680. but, whats the most obvious reason? they dont have a good enough transmission. they use the same G7 tronic in all top of the range models...which is good...but which is rubbish strapped to a nuke. wtf, dont they have enough money to develop a new better one? pitty... all that power, gone to waste.. if they cannot put it down.
radmeister
March 17, 2008 5:41 PM
I doubt the transmission is the problem, brabus uses the same transmission in their 730hp/1100nm rockets and the car has no slips. That's because it has much stronger internals, kevlar and such. You don't need to make a completely new transmission when you can upgrade your current model. I don't understand how everyone here can praise the viper and vette and then complain about how useless a mercedes is because it breaks traction. Viper and vette are worse than merc for traction off the line. Just because the car loses traction off the line doesn't make it useless, look at the Zonda F who just took the crown at the Nurburing. All mercedes has to do is maybe widen the rear wheel arches a bit so u can fit in some 330 rear tires and everything will be good.
ck314
March 18, 2008 1:14 AM
slr and v12's have no 7-tronic but 5 auto and, again, part of the problem is lack of lsd (which brabus wisely includes in most of their conversions)
norther
March 17, 2008 11:44 PM
yeah.of course. they use the same tranny and they limited the torque `cause its ripping it apart. if not, it rips a crater into the ground. radmeister, dude....believe me, its the tranny. im not saying its a bad car, it just needs a new tranny. ...why does the SLC looks like a viper from behind?..in the pictures
BENZian
May 20, 2008 6:55 PM
you are wrong. There is no problem with the AMG Speedshift transmission . AMG knows how to make engines and fast cars and it knows which transmission to put in them. That said I would like to see MB develop a 10 speed transmission and twin turbo the 6.3 AMG V8...and all whell drive would be high on my list also. lol...hate MB all u want but they have been on top or near the top in building cars longer than any other automaker...and for good reason...
benxxl
March 19, 2008 10:21 PM
@ ck314:There is an lsd in the portfolio of nearly every AMG car you nerd... its part of the additional performance package. @ edwinproxp:If you are talking about the SL Black Series: the traction can`t be that bad, it did a 7:36 at the Nordschleife!
ck314
March 20, 2008 12:24 AM
The performance package including LSD is a very recent option on AMG cars found in the all new C63/SL63/CLS63/E63 and standard on the latest SL65 version. That's why I said things are starting to change, and still that's like half of the AMG available versions. Until now, the only AMG cars with LSD were the Black Series; not even the SLR has it, so get a clue, smartass.
benxxl
March 20, 2008 11:26 AM
First of all the SLR isn't made by AMG. Second the only versions of AMG cars where is no LSD available are the S-class, CL, and ML. The ML 63 has a 4WD... so it's just the S and the CL. Now tell me why do you want a LSD in the S and CL? Do you want to go on a race track with them??? LOL
And by the way the performance package is far away from being "very recent"... even in the former AMG 55-models the performance package was already available. So better go and discuss about cars that come out of your country because obviously you don't really have a clue about fine german cars and in special those made by MB. ;-)
ck314
March 20, 2008 4:41 PM
haha Your cheap provocations won't derange me one bit, try again... So you are saying the SLR's engine isn't made by AMG. And isn't McLaren supposed to be even more radical than AMG? That was my point when I said "not even the SLR has it". S and CL only? How about the CLK63 (PP available but no LSD included) and the SLK55? So much for the MB "expert". And if you're talking about previous Performance Package editions, they were only available in the US, and even then I highly doubt it there was an LSD included for, say, the CLS55 or SL55, because it was never available in Europe, except very rare limited editions for the E55 and possibly others, but never as a current factory option. Anyway, even this current Performance Package philosophy also proves my point: wouldn't it be more logical to include a standard LSD in a car with over 500hp and brutal torque at the rear wheels? And still more nonsensical is having to pay over 11,000 euro ($17,000) or the price of a Mazda 2 for this friggin PP when I just want an LSD worth less than 700e. And what cars come out of your country other than defective Explorers and unrefined Corvettes?? Lewser.
benzboy
March 23, 2008 8:29 AM
to:ck 314 I must say I consider you and I on the same page when it comes to most discussions. I think its outrageous, the cost of these PP.Totally agree, but dont you go bashing my country or were going to have problems.LOL your still one of my favorite posters just keep your fingers off the USA.
ck314
March 23, 2008 6:38 PM
lol relax, my moms american and i have lots of buds & relatives overthere, plus i actually love the z06/zr1.. was just knocking this obese arrogant noob off the fence
ck314
March 23, 2008 7:27 PM
btw since i only pre-ordered the c63, i might finally go for the sl63.. i really didnt like that ugly black boot deflector on the 1st official pics, but i later realized it was part of the optional carbonfiber bodykit.. i just hate having to disburse +17K for the PP (7K for c63), eventho you get composite brakes, sportier suspension setup, wider front spoiler + beautiful forged 19" rims from sl65, lsd and so on.. which color did you choose?
benxxl
March 26, 2008 10:40 AM
@ ck whatever: First of all I'm not american (thank god for that!). The country I'm coming from is the country where MB, BMW and Porsche are manufactured... If you got the ability to read carefully (which i doubt) you could see that i never said that the SLR's engine isn't made by AMG. In fact McLaren manufactures the body of the SLR... One last thing: Congratulation to your coming c63. Mine (black/black) is coming at the end of april.
benzboy
April 2, 2008 5:10 AM
Silver with black, I would not get the pp cause on this car I feel its an oxymoron and not needed, I"ll save the 14k cost of pp and spend it on gas insurance and the babes I will be meeting with this car LOL
benzboy
April 2, 2008 5:15 AM
@benxxl congrats on your c63 but black/black. I would never own a black car to much work, black is the hardest color to maintain unless, you have a detail shop on retainer!!LOL best of luck to you
dimmu-danny
April 5, 2008 10:31 PM
this is insane!:| whats the use of a (super)sportscar if you cant put your foot down? look at it!
I do like mercs, especially the AMG but this is going nowhere. AMG is more and more leaning towards the american cars, which I pity... MB/AMG is known as an hi-tech brand. go 4WD!! AMG engines and cars are awsome, but they always lose every (drag-)race because there never is enough traction. I know AMG/MB CAN make cars that handle superb. This could well be the reason the SLR didn't sell as much as expected.
I think they should lose their cockiness about 2WD and finally make a sportscar that truly Ãs perfect. take the new STI for example. that is 4WD. its handling is highly acclaimd, as far I know!
benxxl
April 7, 2008 12:32 PM
Why do you think you can´t put your foot down? Every Black Series model has a LSD... And as I already mentioned this beast is incredible fast on the track. It made a 7:36 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife.
BENZian
May 20, 2008 7:02 PM
all is hear is hating. Rest assured that MB/AMG is working hard to make their cars handle even better. Most of the posters doing the hating will most likely never have enough money to by an SL let alone a black series.
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