Recently we saw the Audi TT S, a 2.0-litre pocket rocket of a roadster developing a healthy 270bhp/200kW via a hard-spinning turbo. Today new pictures of an even faster version of the TT, the TT RS, have been taken in Sweden amid deep snow flakes. The large, six double-spoked wheels, plus two major ovals at the rear pretty much sum up what this thing is. To top it off they used a flat-bottomed steering wheel inside these spy pictures. Ring any bells?
Speculation is rife as to what kind of engine and consequently, power will accompany its Quattro AWD system, but smart money is on two choices. A 3.2-litre V6 with a turbo strapped around it, and good for over 365 bhp/270kW, or a 2.5-litre V5 plant, with a turbo too. Manual gearbox (as pictured) is given, with a 7-speed DSG option available. In a break with Audi tradition, the TT RS will sell alongside another current-production RS car, the 571 bhp/426kW RS 6.
Volkswagen companies, including subsidiary Audi, have, in recent years, begun using small but powerful engines with turbos to push their cars faster and faster. This has applied especially to the smaller cars like the A3 and TT.
Audi TT RS Newest Spy Photos
TT RS shows off big oval pipes
Over 365 bhp expected
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Comments (23)
ceven
Why have a choice with the engines?
Did they stick with that concept anywhere else? The RS should have one proper engine option, be it the V5 or V6. I'd like the idea of a V5 better, since they somehow were a bit special back in the days.
January 21, 2008 8:40 pm
NICKKOP
there is no such thing as a v5, it is an I5 or Inline-5, such as a strengthened version of the one already powering the Jetta/Rabbit/Golf, and The VR6 would more likely have bi-turbochargers or twin- turbochargers, rather than a single turbo charger, providing one for each cylinder bank
January 21, 2008 9:18 pm
NICKKOP
if these photograghars were as close to the car as the photos show, they should have listened, as it couldn't be too hard to tell apart the difference in tone of a VR6 and I5, they both have very specific tones... and judging by those exhaust tips, the tone should be even more audible... that way there would be no uncertainty of what motor this TTRS will have..
January 21, 2008 9:24 pm
Bristol411S3
This car seems showroom ready. Can't be far from launch now.
And I think that meant to read "ONE OF two choices" - my guess is the 3.2 V6. Remember this unit was avilable in the Mk 1 without turbos and nobody complained too much.
January 21, 2008 10:00 pm
Joe_Limon
There is such thing as a V5 engine, basically its like an inline five but the cylinders are offset so you can make the engine smaller.
January 21, 2008 10:41 pm
rwesq15
It would actually make more sense to put the same bi-turbo 3.0 V6 they are going to put into the new S4, power output just boosted a bit.
January 21, 2008 11:02 pm
Faithback
In South Africa, we've had V5 engines in the Jetta 4 for some time now. However, these engines have not -as far as I know- been carried over to the 5th generation.
January 22, 2008 3:10 am
cargo8
i think this article needs to be corrected/editted. how do v5's work? explain or is that a mistake?
also its 7 double spoke rims not 6.
also flat bottom wheel isnt special since its in all the TTs....
on another note. 365 HP?!?!? how fast ist his gonna be??!? jeez.
January 22, 2008 3:48 am
devlin
There is a engine said to be a V5. It is a narrow V so that the engine length is shorter. here is a link of a V5 engine with the top of. It surely is not a inline.
http://www.engineaction.com/images/photos/ex000006.jpg
January 22, 2008 5:39 am
TTDan
I have an '05 audi tt 3.2vr6 without the flat bottom steering wheel, the flat bottom came in '07 and '08 with the redesign....
June 1, 2008 3:02 am
sub39h
I think Audi have made a bit of a cock-up. If you look at the top of page 12 of the UK TT brochure (Edition 1 for the 2007 model year) there is a picture of a TT with a completely different front bumper than either the standard car or the new TT-S. If you look at the front air intakes on this car, they look exactly the same shape but with a mesh over the front instead of 2 horizontal slats and they are missing their fog lights. At a guess I'd say they've inadvertently already published the front end of their new TT-RS in the UK brochure anyway.
And V5 engines do exist, but I doubt that they would use one for the TT. I'd also like to point out that Audi does have a 3.6 litre V6 (good for approx. 300bhp) at it's disposal and that that may well be in the line up for the choice of engine. And I also doubt the 7-speed DSG would be used, because as far as I was aware it was only good for power outputs up to 170bhp.
January 22, 2008 9:37 pm
MrX3m3
sub39h, are you sure, you didn't see TT S-Line in that brochure? Because this RS prototype looks almost exactly the same as S-Line packaged TT (19" RS4 wheels and different, larger air intakes at the front w/o fog lights, unlike standard car). And using NA V6 in RS wouldn't make sense imo - the car would end up barely, if at all, faster than TT-S (just remember mk1 225q vs 3.2q)
January 23, 2008 11:49 am
sub39h
I'm sure it wasn't the TT-S, purely because the TT-S hadn't been released in this version of the brochure. I'd upload a photo if I could just so you could see where I'm coming from. I also agree with you in regards to the normally aspirated use of the 3.6 V6, but I never ruled out the possibility of forced induction ;). I'm merely suggesting it would be a better base engine than either the 2.0 TFSI (which I've sampled in the S3 and Golf GTI and would say it's better in it's lower output form) or the 3.2 V6 which I've driven, as it happens, in Mk 2 TT form. In any event, I would guess they would give it a higher output than the Z4 M, purely because that would fit in with Audi's tactic of making the 'S' variant less powerful than it's M rival, and the 'RS' variant more powerful (if you need an example, look at the B7 S4 and RS4 compared to the E46 BMW and the current S6 and RS6 compared to the current M5)
January 23, 2008 2:24 pm
MrX3m3
You misunderstood me :) I was referring to normal Audi TT, equipped with optional "S-Line" sports package, which is not the same as true S car (S-Line is not S, just like M Sport is not M with BMWs).
I'm sure it was 2.0 TFSI S-Line in that brochure - http://www.germancarblog.com/2006/09/audi-tt-s-line-wallpapers-for-your.html
and not the recent TT-S, because it wasn't yet released, as you say...
And regarding to what engine will RS TT use - I think it'll really be a new 2.5l 5cyl. turbo, because they won't stress their 2.0t any more in a production car (there is chiptuning for that, yay!), NA V6 wouldn't make sense as we agree and FI V6 would be an overkill in a compact car like TT, because of even more weight and engine bay space constraints.
January 24, 2008 2:09 pm
I would imagine the photographer would have been able to make out the intercooler behind the front air dam and end all of this speculation.
January 23, 2008 9:16 pm
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