New BMW M DKG Transmission
7-speed double-clutch with DriveLogic
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Second again! :P
C63 AMG is with 7G-Tronic from the same beginning...
Second place dear BMW that's all you can do... :)))))))))) :P
January 17, 2008 12:39 pm
BMW has provied a Double-clutch gearboxs, not the Benz's trandtional gearbox!
January 17, 2008 10:38 pm
Verdano, not second... Third! VW DSG has been around for some time now!
January 17, 2008 12:51 pm
Mercedes-Benz 7G tronic is not a dual-clutch electro-manual direct transmission like the DSG, but a conventional auto with a torque converter and ultra-fast shifting capability by automatic standards(speedshift) so VW AG, then Mitsubishi, then Nissan beat BMW, not M-B just for the sake of correction
January 17, 2008 1:25 pm
Look guys , It's german made .. HAHAHAHAHAAAAA another victory !!
January 17, 2008 1:27 pm
Mercedes-Benz 7G tronic is not a dual-clutch electro-manual direct transmission like the DSG.It is a conventional auto with a torque converter and ultra-fast shifting capability by automatic standards, hence, speedshift - One of the best automatics available, but inferior to a Dual-clutch auto-manual. So to the Dual-Clutch Game First was VW AG, then Mitsubishi, then Nissan beat BMW, not M-B just for the sake of correction...
January 17, 2008 1:37 pm
verdano, jb
not second or third, first. BMW aren't claiming to have invented the dual-clutch transmission.
the 7-Gtronic in the C63 is a normal auto. VW's DSG is 6 speed and not 7.
BMW has the first 7-speed dual-clutch transmission.
There are MANY examples where other manufacturers have copied BMW styling and tech innovation.
Why can't people just applaud them for this very impressive transmission? Sheesh.
January 17, 2008 1:37 pm
Well... i can't really say that a extra gear is such a technological advancement! The technology shown here is the use of dual SOLID (as opposed to fluid), clutches, and not having 6 or 7 or whatever number of gears... And if you wanna get technical the Veyron does have a 7 speed version of the DSG so...
But please don't get me wrong, I love that BMW has finally got this on their repertoire, and I'm anxiously waiting for BMW to bring this to "normal" models.
January 17, 2008 1:58 pm
bmw is not like benz trash it dosnt "hit" you every gear change .... anyway there is nothing like clasic men gear change
January 17, 2008 2:37 pm
well, as far as I know, BMW never made gearboxes. This is a Getrag gearbox that BMW is the first to use. I believe that only the electronic part is made by the BMW M guys.
But who cares anyway?! This is a very, very good sports car indeed!
January 17, 2008 2:42 pm
I agree with v1p3r!!!
Verdano, Mercedes copied the 7 series interior style with a cheap copy of the i-drive and all the front panel...inclusively the central screen in the panel!!! And to finish, i just want to say that this m3 will always beat the c63 rubbish anytime...that's a fact!!!
January 17, 2008 4:02 pm
first off, the 7tronic is used thru-out the mercedes line up and it's just a regular automatic transmission. the c63 is the only available with the down shift blip throttle and the rest of the amg models have 3 settings. sport, manual (shifting via buttons and the torque converter shifts the gear), and comfort mode. the 7tronic is the first 7 speed automatic and lexus is the first 8 speed automatic.
January 17, 2008 4:57 pm
The photos were taken on the cabriolet M3 :)
Take a look on a gearshift lever
January 17, 2008 8:13 pm
No merc had it first, no bmw did. It doesn't matter, all i know is if i could could get my head wrapped around iDrive i maybe would car about the darn transmission. Unless 7 gears saves me fuel i don't get the point. What the hell happened to driven a good old manual with a clutch (amazing how many people don't know how)...Unless you are an F1 driver or race, the average driver places it in D and goes.
January 17, 2008 11:04 pm
RCarvalho, mb copied 7 series interior? if you are talking about the s class, then you are totally wrong, of course the 7 has a great interior, but please compare it to the s class, the interior is in a different world to the 7, much better.
7 speed M DKG is not the first dual clucth, veyron and vw already have it, but still it is a great pleasure to have it in car like the superb m3, much more fun for the aggresive driver
January 18, 2008 5:44 am
Mercedes-Benz is the best in transmissions because they built the first automatic transmission in the world . But that doesn't mean BMW know nothing . We shuold agree that the German makers are the best in everything can be found in a car .
January 18, 2008 8:46 am
Impressive indeed, but the VW AG group (etc Bugatti Veyron, VW GTI and R32) was the first with a DSG, however the Veyron engine does not spin to 8300rpm. BMW AG is correct to say:
"As the world’s first seven-speed double-clutch gearbox developed for a high-torque, high-speed powerplant," Mercedes was the first with a seven speed automatic and Lexus (Toyota) made the first eight speed just to one up Mercedes. I think think the C63 CTS-V, IS-F, and the RS4 have to bow to the King; E92 M3.
January 18, 2008 12:51 pm
Impressive indeed, but the VW AG group (etc Bugatti Veyron, VW GTI and R32) was the first with a DSG, however the Veyron engine does not spin to 8300rpm. BMW AG is correct to say:
"As the world’s first seven-speed double-clutch gearbox developed for a high-torque, high-speed powerplant," Mercedes was the first with a seven speed automatic and Lexus (Toyota) made the first eight speed just to one up Mercedes. I think think the C63 CTS-V, IS-F, and the RS4 have to bow to the King; E92 M3.
January 18, 2008 12:51 pm
you always think mercedes wants to be sportier than bmw, but they want to link comfort and speed, so bmw and mercedes have different ideologies. everybody knows that the m3 will always be sportier than the c amg, but the c will always be more comfortable. so these 2 have their advantages and their disadvantages.
January 18, 2008 3:28 pm
very true. bmw with it's near 50/50 weight distribution and driver orientated interior, firmer suspension, sportier seats, smaller brakes in front, bigger brakes in the rear, with less traction control cutting in. mercedes with automatics in thier sportiest cars, nappa leather on all amg cars, big engines that provides low down torque for that low level noise acceleration, big brakes up front, traction control cutting in even when vsc off providing safety for that crazy torque.
January 18, 2008 8:07 pm
very true. bmw with it's near 50/50 weight distribution and driver orientated interior, firmer suspension, sportier seats, smaller brakes in front, bigger brakes in the rear, with less traction control cutting in. mercedes with automatics in thier sportiest cars, nappa leather on all amg cars, big engines that provides low down torque for that low level noise acceleration, big brakes up front, traction control cutting in even when vsc off providing safety for that crazy torque.
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