Lexus LF-A Sets 'Ring Record

 Lexus LF-A Sets Ring Record
The Lexus LF-A Concept Presented Earlier in 2007

Faster than Zonda F

According to Auto Express and Japanese car magazine Holiday Auto, Lexus insiders have revealed that the upcoming 552 bhp Lexus LF-A sports car has lapped the Nurburgring in 7 minutes and 24 seconds, slashing the current record time of 7 minutes and 27 seconds set by the Pagani Zonda F. Despite conflicting claims regarding the lap times of the all-new Porsche 911 GT2 (7:32 AutoBild, 7:25 AutoExpress), one thing appears to be clear; the Lexus LF-A has raised the bar to a  new level.

While the German Nurburgring has always been the benchmark for measuring the performance of a sports car, Porsche and other European sports car manufacturers are starting to feel the heat of Japanese manufacturers, particularly from Nissan and Lexus, who are currently going head-to-head with their GT-R and LF-A sports cars. In September, the Nissan GT-R lapped the Nurburgring in 7 minutes and 38 seconds, narrowly beating the time of the Porsche 997 GT3. Even Honda is reportedly working on a 5.0-litre V10 powered NSX.

Sources say that the Nurburgring test mule was powered by a 4.8-litre V10 engine putting out 552 bhp, capable of reaching 210 mph. We can't wait to hear the official announcement on the final specifications of this car. What are your thoughts? While the Nissan GT-R may not stack up against its German archrivals in terms of interior build quality, do you think the Lexus will?

Source: AutoExpress

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 NICKKOP NICKKOP
A LEXUS M6/NSX??? HMM... UNFORTUNATELY TO ME ANYTHING NAMED LEXUS NOT FOLLOWED BY LX OR LS AUTOMATICALLY IS BORING... SORRY.. TRY BADGING IT A TOYOTA? SUPRA GT-S ?? I DON'T KNOW...
December 28, 2007 7:45 pm
 kingmonkey kingmonkey
Whats all this about lacking passion or boring? Good to see that the japanese manfacturers are not just power obessed and simply extracting more performance by just slotting in ever bigger and more powerful engines. Sure they may not have the badge or history but they'll be a lot more affordable, I can't see anything wrong with that.
December 29, 2007 9:39 am
 NICKKOP NICKKOP
UNFORTUNATELY THE STYLING LOOKS BORING TO ME TOO... IMPRESSIVE PERFORMANCE NUMBERS, HANDLING AND POWER AT A HIGH COST (US$ 120-250,000)? ANY CAR COMPANY CAN DO THAT... HOW ABOUT SOME PASSION?? SEE FERARI, BMW, AUDI, HONDA, NISSAN MAZDA... HELL, EVEN CHEVY CORVETTE OR FORD GT... COME ON TOYOTA/ LEXUS.. YOU HAVE MORE POTENTIAL THAN THIS...
December 28, 2007 7:50 pm
 bakrione bakrione
whats more annoying than your comments, is your caps lock typing!
December 29, 2007 12:40 pm
 persian187 persian187
second that notion
December 31, 2007 11:01 am
 moyusuf moyusuf
OK, we are talking about speed, and that thing is fast. maybe you should try reading the article.
December 28, 2007 9:02 pm
 muellr muellr
well, lets see the real cars figures and then judge. BMW pushed X5 V12 test mule around the ring in 7.49 a couple years ago, whats it worth? True, the L cars seem to lack passion and fascination. c'mon which boy has a poster of a lexus above his bed ? - long way to go toyota
December 28, 2007 9:18 pm
 xenomorph xenomorph
Your right, Lexus(Toyota) is and always will just be a glorified Toyota no matter what they do. And theres nothing cool about a Toyota.
December 29, 2007 11:10 pm
 xenomorph xenomorph
Apart from my previous comment, I do think this car is an exception to the rest of the brand, but I think that the picture is just a concept car, not production, so it might not look as interesting as this unfortunately. The headlights look great I think.
December 29, 2007 11:17 pm
 NitrousOxide NitrousOxide
NIKKOP, I bet that you understand nothing about cars!! LF-A's design is BORING?!?!?!?! THIS IS SIMPLY THE "MOST" futuristic design in automotive history.. ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT, ABSOLUTELY STUNNING.. Define passion in cars??? I bet you cant..
December 29, 2007 12:33 am
 GeeDougg GeeDougg
THE MOST STUNNING IN HISTORY? Sorry, but couldn't be further fro the truth. I'm not the only one who thinks so either - even as a subjective viewpoint I find it hard to take that claim seriously - I don't hear too many people going crazy over the LF-S or LF-A or whatever the hell it's called. Futuristic is easy to do - futuristic with class is something entirely different.
December 29, 2007 5:22 am
 purplehaze purplehaze
It looks like a transformer.
December 29, 2007 12:53 am
 FOXHOUND FOXHOUND
THANK YOU NitrousOxide for that comment, at least someone here appreciates that this is one beautiful car, personally i think that this is one of THE most beautiful cars i have ever seen. and in terms of price and other cars in its class and such, i would take this over similarly priced porsche or ferrari.
December 29, 2007 1:46 am
 GeeDougg GeeDougg
You'd take this over a similarly priced Porsche? WTF? Seriously?
December 29, 2007 5:23 am
 Aesthetics Aesthetics
i'm just glad this car is faster than the hideous looking gt-r and finally the japs get to bury the push-rod retarded pride of american corvette.
December 29, 2007 2:15 am
 GeeDougg GeeDougg
There's no need to insult people - I'm not a fan of pushrods or a huge fan of the Corvette either, but the "Japs" aren't burying anything here. Lap times come and go, but to me this car's already forgotten. Besides, the rear of the GT-R is actually quite pretty, if you don't mind me saying so....
December 29, 2007 5:25 am
 radmeister radmeister
Nothing wrong with push-rod motors, if you build them properly they are just as good as any other engine. And what american pride is there to bury? They were never the fastest, or most reliable, or best looking. Their entire marketting plan is based on "hey we arent as fast as a porsche but we also dont cost as much" well if you ask me that is just retarded, if you compare speed vs. price a 1972 Dacia wins, you can find one for 100$ which is what a tank of gas will cost you in the vette. They have no pride which is shown by their retarded comparisons to Murcielagos, F430 and porsche Gt2s.
December 29, 2007 5:06 pm
 Aesthetics Aesthetics
c'mon, absolutely stunning? its a beautifully shaped car but the front does it slight injustice. rear gearbox and radiator, very clever like the lister storm. well done.
December 29, 2007 2:30 am
 Ferrariguy Ferrariguy
Haha, very funny thread. The car isn't even out yet and people are already making comments, like " this car is already forgotten." How do you do?
December 29, 2007 5:45 am
 GeeDougg GeeDougg
Sorry to burst the bubble, but look around you.... This thing's no Lambo or Porsche or Ferrari - hell, I'd buy an M5 over this any day.... It's a concept that's supposed to excite the crap out of everyone and it's failing miserably. It gets all the reaction that another Toyota on steroids wearing (too much) make-up would get. Sure, it's more exciting than a Celica in drag with a massive turbo pushing 360HP, but at the end of the day, I find it extremely hard to give a shit, and if I'd been the only one, I wouldn't bother mentioning it either....
December 31, 2007 8:55 pm
 NitrousOxide NitrousOxide
Thats right Ferrariguy.. Im with you.. Even though the numbers are the only things present, I personally think that this will be one of "the best" cars in the decade.. 552 bhp and beaten the Pagani Zonda F!!! that is a seriously shocking fact.. And for those who are still critisizing me when I said "stunning, or one of the best", I reapeat it again, and add to it that this might be the best designed car in the history.. And no other futuristic car can come even close to it...
December 29, 2007 9:11 am
 sub39h sub39h
All of you should know that lap times are completely irrelevant in the real world. If you set up a car such that it can perform best around a lap, it'll break your back every time you drive it to work. I can only assume that the LF-A is looking to emulate the new kid on the block, the R8 - that is, every day supercar. As it happens, I drive an Audi (not an R8 but hey) and even I would struggle to find myself not wanting a set of Porsche keys (as opposed to Audi keys) in my pocket. The same goes for the Lexus. And Nissan. And Honda. Your cars may be faster than an 911 Turbo, but who realistically sees someone stepping from 911 Turbo to Nissan GT-R or Lexus LF-A? I certainly don't.
December 29, 2007 9:27 am
 foose1397 foose1397
I agree with some however, I don't certainly see anyone driving any of these cars to work...the price range we are talking about is mostly for "fun" cars. Many will prefer their Lexus LS's and Audi A8 to go to work. If this is your daily driver i don't get it, you racin everyone at every stop light. Porsche has name and shape, Audi R8 has head turning design with performance, This has well maybe design & #s that no one will ever know unless your a car person. Sorry an R8 and Porsche are still gonna feel as fast on daily roads but they have presence
December 30, 2007 3:22 am
 sub39h sub39h
And Lexus over a Pagani Zonda? Don't make me laugh...
December 29, 2007 9:28 am
 ck314 ck314
sub39h, will you drive a pagani zonda to work? I personally find the LF-A is a perfect compromise between pure performance and luxury. Its design is simply astonishing; whether you like it or not, which is a personal matter, denying this is the most refined and contemporary design found in production sports cars today denotes lack of discerment. I've always been a 911 fan, but if Lexus decided to fit a manual box in it, the LF-A would become the perfect every day supercar.
December 29, 2007 10:51 am
 radmeister radmeister
Why wouldn't you drive a pagani zonda to work? It has fully adjustable dampers and springrate, It has A/C, Heat, MP3 radio. If you want you can set it up as a daily driver, and then set it up for the track when you go. And because of the pure simplicity of the car and the fact it has one of the best engines in the world i will put money on the zonda that it will be more reliable than this Lexus with 50 million electronics and a brand new engine never used before.
December 29, 2007 4:45 pm
 ck314 ck314
You must be kidding me, I mean, who other than some immature teenage boyracer craving for attention would consider driving a Pagani Zonda around town daily instead of a Lexus LF. It's not about harsh ride, it's about mere logic (manoeuvreability, visibility, fuel efficiency) all the while driving a magnificent vehicle. About reliability, as long as it bears the Lexus bagde you can be sure it won't let you down, except very rare exceptions. Finally, it has the merit of not borrowing parts from other manufacturers.
December 29, 2007 5:43 pm
 radmeister radmeister
Honestly if you can afford a Pagani Zonda the Ozone and opening ur wallet at the gas station are the last things on your mind. A zonda or veyron is the same as a porsche just on another level of welth. There are people in russia that use a veyron or carrera GT to get groceries, simply because they dont care they can afford to buy a new one everytime it gets a little dirty. Lets face it nobody spends their entire bank account on these supercars they have enough $ to back them up and dont have to think about babying them like me and you do, to them its just another corola, that just gets them more attention from hoes.
December 30, 2007 7:17 am
 NauAudiS4 NauAudiS4
The Zonda is a more beautiful car than the LF-A can ever aspire to be. Not to mention the interior, and that Italian passion. I'd put $100 down that the interior of the LF-A will be nice, but not gorgeous, awe-inspiring, and will be very plasticy. Like all Lexus'. Also, 95% of the reviews I've seen on the Zonda have said that it's the Anti-Supercar. It's very easy to drive, and go around town in. If I had the money, I'd pick the Zonda over the LF-A 364 days out of the year. Why not 365? B/c I live off of variety...
December 30, 2007 8:37 am
 ck314 ck314
I could care less about what a pack of new rich automobile illiterate mobsters in Russia do. They couldn't tell the difference between FWD, RWD or AWD until they totalled the car past the first bend. I've also heard they use jets to fly to the mall, and they probably molest kids from foster care. Being rich doesn't necessarily mean being vulgar and absurd, but having the ability, sensitivity and wisdom to appreciate what you've got.
December 30, 2007 1:07 pm
 ck314 ck314
NauAudiS4, have you ever visited a Lexus dealer recently? Obviously not. My brother owns an LS 600h and it's fully loaded with semi-aniline leather (one of the finest qualities available), including dashboard and doors, alcantara roof lining, and same goes for the LF-A, which is supposed to look like a futuristic Ferrari's cockpit. And the Pagani costs more than twice its price.
December 30, 2007 1:20 pm
 NauAudiS4 NauAudiS4
I have not been to a Lexus Dealer, but I have been to several car shows recently, and have sat in the LS600, IS350, SC430, etc. The interiors are far from inspiring. I felt that if the car sat in the sun for a couple hours here were I live (gets up to 110f in the summer) all the plastic, and plastic looking wood would crack. Not to mention I was fairly cramped in the LS driver's seat. Don't get me wrong, I think Lexus' exterior design is starting to get very modern and classy, but the interiors are still for old people. This might be b/c I'm so used to Audi's interior's, and we all know Audi has some of the best, if not the best, interiors for cars in this class. Lexus is getting good at this game, but the Germans have been doing it for years, and thus they know how to do it right.
December 30, 2007 11:13 pm
 ck314 ck314
You "felt" it would, but it's mere subjectivity and prejudice, especially regarding their latest models, and I don't know what you mean by plastic looking wood, at least the GS/LS/SC ranges use only high quality genuine wood. I won't be the one dissing german brands: grew up surrounded by many generations of S-Class Mercs, 3-series Bimmers, great number of VW and Audi, and I've owned two 911's (my fetiche car), and have pre-ordered a TT-S. It's true that the LS's interior design is somewhat dull and there are a few disappointing details (chromed plastic door handles in and out, fake vortex design wheels, average leather quality [and scent] in cheaper versions), but this could be somehow justified regarding the average age of potential buyers in this premium segment (in Europe I've heard it's around 56 y.o.) and considering the car is fairly priced compared to its german counterparts. About feeling cramped behind the wheel, it's just a trick in the sense that the wheel stays up and horizontal (easy entry system) until you startup the engine and the bottom seat is longitudinally adjustable and usually set in the shortest position by default so, unless you're a shortie, it's going to feel awkward. It doesn't match the S-Class' amazing contour "armchairs" though. I could travel hundreds of miles non-stop in those and feel better than when I left.
December 31, 2007 1:05 pm
 Bristol411S3 Bristol411S3
LF-A sets ring record? For what? Production cars? This is NOT a production car. So if we are putting it up against other one offs then this scores nowhere - there are a hundred cars that could beat this time.
December 29, 2007 12:46 pm
 Suckio Suckio
Who cares? Every carmaker can produce fast cars, only production versions you can compete with eachother. For example Mercedes set a record for Diesel-cars with 404km/h in 1971, in a testmule.
December 29, 2007 1:29 pm
 ck314 ck314
It's supposed to be a pre-launch car with dealer specs. It's not Toyota's style to brag about a few tenths of a second more or less with a modified car. They have the means to beat Nissan and Pagani, and even Porsche for awhile, and they'll do it.
December 29, 2007 2:18 pm
 NitrousOxide NitrousOxide
Who told you people that this car is not a production car?!?!?! This car was supposed to be available in the market during 2008, but toyota cancelled the plan, and you know why??? because the car was reaching around 300 kph, while the plan was to get it over 340, so it took it back to the designers, and asked them to re-design some of its aerodynamics(So as HONDA, redesign for Aerodynamics). MOREOVER, no one can talk about how civilized Lexus cars are, I personally think they are the most comfortable cars ever; Even though this car has broken the timing in the Nurburgring, which means that the car is very hard for the sake of handling, Im still sure that the cars interior is as comfy as no other car is.... If you will judge the car due to its origin, you will never like it, as u people think that its only for your Euro-American heroes, while if you will judge it for its abilities and specs, this car will knock off many of its greatest rivals.. Believe it or not, like it or not, The japanese will torture every European carmaker within 2 years only. Nissan GTR took on the 911 Turbo, Honda NSX is coming with a V10 over 500 hp(with all the superiority of the previous model,it was a V6 and 280 hp), and Finally, Lexus has "ALREADY" beaten the ZONDA F.. GUESS WHAT PEOPLE.. It will ALL be for Japanese..
December 29, 2007 2:57 pm
 radmeister radmeister
The new NSX will be nothing like the old one, the old 1 had a single purpose to go fast around a track and to be as light as possible, the new 1 will be full of electronics and gadjets that will weigh it down, and the weight of the new engine, i wouldnt be surprised if the new1 has the same power/weight ratio as the old 1. And you have to remember one thing this car that went around the track wasnt production spec, interior was probably empty just a driver's racing seat. Also it doesnt say if it was a standing start or flying. Same with the GT-R it was a flying start that it got it's lap time. Even if this car beats a Veyron who cares? At the end of the day it's still a 120,000$ car that there will be 20,000 other ppl with it. Nobody is going to stop in traffic to look at you and take photos. For the record there are much faster cars around the Nurburing, donkervoort, ariel atom, Super 7s and all are production cars and this is not, and not to mention they are half the price.
December 29, 2007 4:57 pm
 ck314 ck314
Interior probably empty?? lol Frankly, I hope you have solid arguments backing up those farfetched assumptions. In the mean time, Ariel Atom, Super7s, etc. have nothing to do with the kind of cars we're dealing with (high performance GT's) hence not comparable. And if your main aim is to have ppl stopping in traffic to take photos, a $500 purple buggy and a Ronald McDonald suit will do ;)
December 29, 2007 5:57 pm
 radmeister radmeister
Check out the new Donkervoort GT, the previous model lap time was 7:14, this one is expected to be even quicker with 60hp more and only 44lb weight increase. I think this car is absolutelly stunning. http://www.casanovacars.com/others/donkervoort_d8_gt.php
December 29, 2007 5:14 pm
 ck314 ck314
If it's just about having fun on a Sunday evening ask these spaniards http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=aH7lmQMEEy4&feature=related
December 29, 2007 7:07 pm
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