Mercedes History: 10 Years of CDI

Common rail direct injection

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 Herr.Bugno Herr.Bugno
The first common-rail (car) diesel was the Fiat Croma TD i.d. from 1987 (?), just to be exact !
December 14, 2007 10:28 am
 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz
Herr.Bungo, FIAT - Are you in jokes mate. Also, TD means nothin - lol - they jus put it their to make it sound different. DO NOT COMPARE Mercedes-Benz to FIAT - Also,the inventer of diesel engine was Mercedes-Benz, so no arguments - All CDI is, is a different engine system of diesel
December 14, 2007 2:41 pm
 lelu lelu
What are you talking about? He's just saying the first common-rail diesel was a Fiat and not a Mercedes, and this a fact. You don't have anything to say...
December 14, 2007 5:53 pm
 Duramax_Diesel Duramax_Diesel
No, the inventor of the diesel engine was Rudolf Diesel in 1892 with a working one coming in 1894. Mercedes didn't roll out their first and also the world's first production diesel till 1936 with the 260 D.
December 14, 2007 6:20 pm
 puddingpuppet puddingpuppet
Mercedes-Benz needs to pull his head out the Mercedes' CEO's ass.
December 14, 2007 6:59 pm
 out4ride out4ride
puddingpuppet i can't stop loughing and i just got the visual. hey marcedes-benz by the way TD stands for TURBO DIESEL and VW was the first to stick it on the cars. CDI stands for Common Diesel Injection. Bluetec has a special catalytic conventer made from porcelin. Yes Rudolf Diesel was the inventor but his prototype worked for little time since there was no materils strong enough to withstand internal pressure. Engine was perfected for that time by two german brothers which name i don't remember but u can look it up on internet. I don't know what u have against Fiat maybe u don't know it owns Ferrari. Now u want to compare. As good as Merc is it doesn't have good electronics. lol...
December 14, 2007 7:30 pm
 RamiroBA RamiroBA
"The first passenger car that used the common rail system was the 1997 model Alfa Romeo 156 1.9 JTD and later on that same year Mercedes-Benz C 220 CDI" Kikipedia ("Common Rail") PD: Alfa Romeo is part of FIAT!
December 16, 2007 1:31 am
 Phonixx Phonixx
2 comments: 1st - Mercedes was the 1st brand to place a diesel car in the market. 2nd - Fiat was the inventor of the common rail but not with the Croma. FIAT as the mos notorious story of bad business. 1st they invented the 1.9 tecnology used in the Croma that was called TDId with 1.9 cc and 90 BHP. Later they sell the patent to BOSH that sell the rights to use it to VW and BOOOMMM TDI meand anything to you ? ;) Later on Fiat appears with another new diesel tecnology called JTD (common-rail). once again they sold it to some giant company (can´t remember if it was BOSH again).
December 16, 2007 9:31 am
 Phonixx Phonixx
P.S. It was not 1.9 technology but turbo diesel tecnology used in the 1.9 cc engine
December 16, 2007 9:33 am
 german-cars-lover german-cars-lover
Oh yeah , my favourite maker.
December 19, 2007 11:24 pm
 kalinga kalinga
thanxxxxxxxx
March 5, 2008 12:02 pm
In 1987 at Magnetti Marelli I designed and implemented the software for the project that the following year was named UNIJET, and I can confirm it was the world's first Common Rail Diesel. The Croma was the first car to use it in about 1990 (at Fiat) and the system went into production a few years later. Since then the system evolved into Multi-Jet (with multiple injection).
April 17, 2008 10:13 am
 Mangiafazzulla Mangiafazzulla
As first to know: Rudolf Diesel worked at MAN factory. The heavy diesels were used very soon in ships and trains. The first CommonRail diesel was in fact the rudolf diesel engine.... he didn't have other materials to make a mechanic injector system. In fact, heeven designed an ignition system: he didn't care fot ignitione or self combusting, just in internal combustion. What mercedes invented on the diesel was a indirect system, and from then usable in person cars. And that was actually 'lent' from Hanomag, they invented the 'lanova' system, also an indirect system. MAN used as first in 'little' engines the direct injection, by makeng the explosion chamber in the piston. The first Common Rail in production was by Caterpillar. What was invented in fact by Simms-England.... The first direct injected diesel engine in cars was the 2.8 liter in the Isuzu Trooper, 1987. Remember: Volkswagen doesn't have the commonrail in 2007... they have a mechanical injection, just as Caterpillar uses, also a Simms patent. Simms and CAV where big pioneers. (Rotating pump is invented by CAV, and during worldwar 2 stolen by Bosch and brought to Germany). VW is now developing/buying an Common Rail. As last, but not least: The Fiat Croma was the first CommonRail diesel. Fiat (Iveco) is the biggest producer of Industry-Diesel, they produce more than Perkins/Caterpillar/KHD/Volvo/Kubota together...
November 8, 2009 3:58 am